From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Biener via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
libc-coord@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [libc-coord] Add new ABI '__memcmpeq()' to libc
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 10:37:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf3vha27.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFiYyc3m8VM37Y=9EidVO7pT1GitLKRFPA8=c7FXv2QaFqs9ow@mail.gmail.com> (Richard Biener's message of "Fri, 17 Sep 2021 10:31:54 +0200")
* Richard Biener:
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 10:08 AM Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> * Richard Biener via Gcc:
>>
>> > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 10:36 PM Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, Chris Kennelly wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > In terms of relying on the feature: If __memcmpeq is ever exposed as an a
>> >> > simple alias for memcmp (since the notes mention that it's a valid
>> >> > implementation), does that open up the possibility of depending on the
>> >> > bcmp-like behavior that we were trying to escape?
>> >>
>> >> The proposal is as an ABI only (compilers would generate calls to
>> >> __memcmpeq from boolean uses of memcmp, users wouldn't write calls to
>> >> __memcmpeq directly, __memcmpeq wouldn't be declared in installed libc
>> >> headers). If such dependence arises, that would suggest a compiler bug
>> >> wrongly generating such calls for non-boolean memcmp uses.
>> >
>> > So the compiler would emit a call to __memcmpeq and at the same time
>> > emit a weak alias of __memcmpeq to memcmp so the program links
>> > when the libc version targeted does not provide __memcmpeq? Or would
>> > glibc through <string.h> magically communicate the availability of the new ABI
>> > without actually declaring the function?
>>
>> I do not think ELF provides that capability.
>
> I guess a weak forwarder should do the trick at the cost of a jmp.
How would this look like in practice.
The GNU tools do not support weak symbol versions, so if you have a weak
reference to __memcmpeq@GLIBC_2.35, that's still a reference to the
GLIBC_2.35 symbol version. The glibc 2.34 dynamic loader notes that
version and rejects the binary because GLIBC_2.35 does not exist.
(We should probably stop Cc:ing libc-coord because this is so very
GNU-specific at this point.)
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-17 8:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-16 17:02 Noah Goldstein
2021-09-16 17:55 ` [libc-coord] " Chris Kennelly
2021-09-16 18:31 ` Noah Goldstein
2021-09-16 20:32 ` Chris Kennelly
2021-09-16 20:35 ` Joseph Myers
2021-09-16 20:55 ` enh
2021-09-17 7:43 ` Richard Biener
2021-09-17 8:08 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-17 8:31 ` Richard Biener
2021-09-17 8:37 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2021-09-17 9:30 ` Richard Biener
2021-09-17 17:40 ` Noah Goldstein
2021-09-17 9:12 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-09-17 16:55 ` Martin Sebor
2021-09-17 14:19 ` Joseph Myers
2021-09-17 14:26 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-21 19:53 ` Noah Goldstein
2021-09-22 17:46 ` Christoph Müllner
2021-09-22 18:15 ` Noah Goldstein
2021-09-16 21:27 ` James Y Knight
2021-09-16 21:42 ` Joseph Myers
2021-09-16 21:50 ` enh
2021-09-16 21:59 ` Noah Goldstein
2021-09-16 22:17 ` Chris Kennelly
2021-09-16 22:36 ` Joseph Myers
2021-09-16 23:24 ` Noah Goldstein
2021-09-18 1:36 ` James Y Knight
2021-10-26 22:47 ` Noah Goldstein
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