From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Xi Ruoyao <xry111@xry111.site>
Cc: caiyinyu <caiyinyu@loongson.cn>,
josmyers@redhat.com, libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] LoongArch: Add soft floating-point fe* function implementations.
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 13:45:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y19wxa2a.fsf@oldenburg3.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98f2d5adc158e05a3fa487a8a3a3899734b97a45.camel@xry111.site> (Xi Ruoyao's message of "Tue, 02 Apr 2024 18:40:06 +0800")
* Xi Ruoyao:
> On Tue, 2024-04-02 at 11:40 +0800, caiyinyu wrote:
>> The LoongArch soft ABI was added to glibc in version 2.37[1], but it was
>> not fully implemented,
>> lacking functions for handling soft float exceptions/rounding modes.
>> This patch fills in
>> the missing functions and fixes related failed test cases.
>> Therefore, would backporting this patch to 2.37 be sufficient?
>
> The problem is this change is breaking ABI. The behavior of
> feenableexcept etc. *is* a part of the ABI. For example, if a not so
> careful programmer invokes feenableexcept(FE_INVALID) and then
> mistakenly invokes something like acos(1.0000001), before this change
> the program will continue to run with a NaN, but after this change it'll
> crash with SIGFPE.
That's a behavioral change, not an ABI change.
> You may argue such a program is buggy, but ABI stability requires that
> even such a buggy program should still behave, unless it's invoking an
> undefined behavior per the specification **when the program was built**.
> For example, on x86_64 Glibc still have memcpy@GLIBC_2.2.5 which is
> actually memmove, to support programs built before ISO C (invoking
> memcpy with overlapping ranges, doing so was well defined before ISO C
> but an undefined behavior today).
No, this was done to keep Adobe Flash working:
Strange sound on mp3 flash website
<https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638477>
In general, we do not promise bug-for-bug compatibility.
> In this case, the specification before Glibc 2.40 is well defined as
> "feenableexcept will do nothing and return an error": there is even a
> linker warning actively tells the user this definition!
On the other hand, if an application keeps using the stub despite this
warning, I think it should be prepared for turning into a real
implementation.
> Or maybe we can provide both feenableexcept@GLIBC_2_37 and
> feenableexcept@GLIBC_2_40 in libm.so.6? I don't know if doing so is
> really possible.
Yes, it's possible to add a compat symbol for that and keep the
do-nothing behavior for old applications.
Wouldn't the issue manifest on other architectures with a working
(non-stub) feenableexcept implementation?
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-02 11:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-26 12:46 caiyinyu
2024-03-26 17:34 ` Joseph Myers
2024-03-27 8:42 ` caiyinyu
2024-03-27 17:10 ` Joseph Myers
2024-03-31 10:14 ` caiyinyu
2024-04-01 13:19 ` Florian Weimer
2024-04-02 3:40 ` caiyinyu
2024-04-02 10:40 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-04-02 11:45 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2024-04-02 12:02 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-04-02 12:34 ` Florian Weimer
2024-04-02 12:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2024-04-02 21:18 ` Joseph Myers
2024-03-31 10:31 ` caiyinyu
2024-04-02 21:10 ` Joseph Myers
2024-04-02 14:46 caiyinyu
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