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From: Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>
To: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	Noah Goldstein <goldstein.w.n@gmail.com>
Cc: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86-64: Optimize bzero
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 13:01:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AS8PR08MB6534A0F2FCCDD5487CAE3F45832F9@AS8PR08MB6534.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adf90ef5-25fb-aefb-d234-a25212173920@linaro.org>

Hi,

>> The saving is in the lane-cross broadcast which is on the critical
>> path for memsets in [VEC_SIZE, 2 * VEC_SIZE] (think 32-64).

What is the speedup in eg. bench-memset? Generally the OoO engine will
be able to hide a small increase in latency, so I'd be surprised it shows up
as a significant gain.

If you can show a good speedup in an important application (or benchmark
like SPEC2017) then it may be worth pursuing. However there are other
optimization opportunities that may be easier or give a larger benefit.

>> Agreed it's not clear if it's worth it to start replacing memset calls with
>> bzero calls, but at the very least this will improve existing code that
>> uses bzero.

No code uses bzero, no compiler emits bzero. It died 2 decades ago...

> My point is this is a lot of code and infrastructure for a symbol marked
> as legacy for POSIX.1-2001 and removed on POSIX.1-2008 for the sake of
> marginal gains in specific cases.

Indeed, what we really should discuss is how to remove the last traces of
bcopy and bcmp from GLIBC. Do we need to keep a compatibility symbol
or could we just get rid of it altogether?

Cheers,
Wilco

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-10 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-08 22:43 H.J. Lu
2022-02-08 23:56 ` Noah Goldstein
2022-02-09 11:41 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-02-09 22:14   ` Noah Goldstein
2022-02-10 12:35     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-02-10 13:01       ` Wilco Dijkstra [this message]
2022-02-10 13:10         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-02-10 13:16           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-02-10 13:17           ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-02-10 13:22             ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-02-10 17:50               ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2022-02-10 19:19                 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-02-10 20:27                   ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2022-02-10 20:42                     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-02-10 21:07                       ` Patrick McGehearty
2022-02-11 13:01                         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-02-12 23:46                           ` Noah Goldstein
2022-02-14 12:07                             ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-02-14 12:41                               ` Noah Goldstein
2022-02-14 14:07                                 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-02-14 15:03                                   ` H.J. Lu
2022-05-04  6:35                                     ` Sunil Pandey
2022-05-04 12:52                                       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-04 14:50                                         ` H.J. Lu
2022-05-04 14:54                                           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-02-10 22:00                       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2022-02-10 19:42                 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-02-10 18:28         ` Noah Goldstein
2022-02-10 18:35         ` Noah Goldstein
2022-02-15 13:38 Wilco Dijkstra
2022-02-23  8:12 ` Noah Goldstein
2022-02-23 12:09   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-02-24 13:16   ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-02-24 15:48     ` H.J. Lu
2022-02-24 22:58     ` Noah Goldstein
2022-02-24 23:21       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-02-25 17:37         ` Noah Goldstein
2022-02-25 13:51       ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-02-25 17:35         ` Noah Goldstein

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