Re: Question regarding LC_MONETARY definitions for fr_CH and de_CH

[Jakob Runge <sicarius@g4t3.de>]

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On 5/18/19 6:22 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On 5/17/19 7:12 PM, Jakob Runge wrote:
>> If my observations are correct it would seem to me that the
>> 'p_cs_precedes' and 'n_cs_precedes' for fr_CH should be adjusted.
>>
>> I'd love to read confirmation or correction on this.
> 
> The current data in fr_CH was contributed by Keld Simonsen, and you
> should reach out to him also to discuss this issue.
> 
> In general glibc tries to match published government standards about
> language locales and particularly for number formats.
> 
> Quoting that CLDR is different is not a good justification. Yes, we
> are trying hard to harmonize the glibc locales with CLDR since it
> avoids confusion. However, we also need to understand which database
> has it right, and correct the other.

I've dug deeper and have expended my answer at StackOverflow [1].
The CLDR ticket [2] that discusses this formatting change cites, among
other sources, the CERN guide on typography [3].

This guide specifies:

> Écriture des sommes d’argent
> 
> Le nombre s’écrit par tranches de trois chiffres séparées par un espace insécable
> (pas de point ni d’apostrophe de séparation), et est suivi (et jamais précédé) de
> l’indication de la monnaie soit au long, soit en abrégé. Pour les abréviations de noms
> de monnaie, on utilise le code ISO.

Using google translate this roughly translates to:

> Writing sums of money
> 
> The number is written in three-digit increments separated by a non-breaking space
> (no point or apostrophe of separation), and is followed (and never preceded) by
> the indication of the currency is long or abbreviated. For name abbreviations
> currency, we use the ISO code.

From this I gather that indeed the `p_cs_precedes` and `n_cs_precedes`
settings for fr_CH should be adjusted.

Since I don't have further information on other *_CH locales, and the
settings for de_CH seem to coincide with the current CLDR settings it is
my believe that only fr_CH is affected by this and should therefore be
different from de_CH and not have:

> LC_MONETARY
> copy  "de_CH"
> END LC_MONETAR

All the best,
  Jakob

[1]: https://stackoverflow.com/a/56161892/448591
[2]: https://unicode-org.atlassian.net/browse/CLDR-9370
[3]:
https://translation-council-support-group.web.cern.ch/sites/translation-council-support-group.web.cern.ch/files/Guide%20Typo_FR_styleCERN.pdf


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