From: "bugdal at aerifal dot cx" <sourceware-bugzilla@sourceware.org>
To: libc-locales@sourceware.org
Subject: [Bug localedata/14641] Deprecate name_fmt
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 07:28:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-14641-716-mxJeFosoxA@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-14641-716@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/>
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14641
--- Comment #20 from Rich Felker <bugdal at aerifal dot cx> ---
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 05:48:35AM +0000, keld at keldix dot com wrote:
> The LC_NAME (and LC_ADDTESS) category addresses a real need for providing
> culturally acceptable software. Really many cultures use the Family name,
> first name convention, which is offending to me for my name. The world is
> rather
> split in two halves on the order of given name and family name.
That's the naive and mistaken view that resulted in the creation of
LC_NAME/name_fmt to begin with. In reality there are a lot more
conventions than just these two, but the prevalence of information
systems that require names to be stored as a first/given name and a
last/family name seems to have made their existence much less visible.
Here are some other cultural conventions:
- Only one name. Attempting to force these into a given/family pattern
is offensive and results in things like being assigned a "first
name" of "FNU" and having your given name treated as a family name.
- Multiple names, but all given. Attempting to force these into a
given/family pattern is almost always offensive because it will
result in things like "Mr./Ms. Second-name", presenting a name
backwards as "Second-name First-name", etc.
- Multiple family names. I don't even know how this is typically
handled.
Wikipedia has some detailed coverage of the issues:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_name
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononymous_person
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-28 11:50 [Bug localedata/14641] New: Add a strftime()-like function for formatting human names bugzilla at tecnocode dot co.uk
2012-09-28 12:05 ` Keld Simonsen
2012-09-28 12:41 ` [Bug localedata/14641] " keld at keldix dot com
2012-09-28 12:41 ` bugdal at aerifal dot cx
2013-11-06 13:01 ` simon.mcvittie at collabora dot co.uk
2013-11-06 15:13 ` bugdal at aerifal dot cx
2013-11-06 16:12 ` simon.mcvittie at collabora dot co.uk
2013-11-06 16:33 ` bugdal at aerifal dot cx
2013-11-06 23:57 ` Keld Simonsen
2013-11-06 23:58 ` keld at keldix dot com
2013-11-06 23:58 ` neleai at seznam dot cz
2013-11-07 3:16 ` bugdal at aerifal dot cx
2013-11-07 12:29 ` Keld Simonsen
2013-11-07 12:30 ` keld at keldix dot com
2013-11-07 15:27 ` bugdal at aerifal dot cx
2013-11-07 19:02 ` Keld Simonsen
2013-11-07 19:03 ` keld at keldix dot com
2014-06-17 4:30 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2014-06-17 7:33 ` [Bug localedata/14641] Deprecate name_fmt bugzilla at tecnocode dot co.uk
2014-06-17 7:49 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2014-06-17 16:54 ` Keld Simonsen
2014-06-17 17:03 ` keld at keldix dot com
2014-06-17 17:09 ` bugdal at aerifal dot cx
2014-06-20 5:48 ` Keld Simonsen
2014-06-19 22:48 ` bugzilla at tecnocode dot co.uk
2014-06-20 5:50 ` keld at keldix dot com
2014-06-20 7:28 ` bugdal at aerifal dot cx [this message]
2014-06-20 11:03 ` Keld Simonsen
2014-06-20 11:05 ` keld at keldix dot com
2014-06-20 13:22 ` bugzilla at tecnocode dot co.uk
2014-06-21 18:35 ` Keld Simonsen
2014-06-21 18:37 ` keld at keldix dot com
2014-06-23 8:21 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2014-06-23 13:01 ` Keld Simonsen
2014-06-23 13:04 ` keld at keldix dot com
2014-06-23 21:07 ` Keld Simonsen
2014-06-23 21:08 ` keld at keldix dot com
2014-06-23 21:08 ` myllynen at redhat dot com
2014-06-23 21:57 ` bugdal at aerifal dot cx
2014-06-23 22:12 ` Keld Simonsen
2014-06-23 22:13 ` keld at keldix dot com
2014-06-24 7:40 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2016-02-19 10:46 ` [Bug localedata/14641] LC_NAME: deprecate locale category vapier at gentoo dot org
2016-02-19 15:42 ` myllynen at redhat dot com
2016-02-19 16:15 ` vapier at gentoo dot org
2016-02-19 18:29 ` Keld Simonsen
2016-02-19 18:33 ` keld at keldix dot com
2016-02-19 23:22 ` vapier at gentoo dot org
2016-02-19 23:26 ` Keld Simonsen
2016-02-19 23:27 ` keld at keldix dot com
2016-02-20 6:07 ` vapier at gentoo dot org
2016-02-22 8:10 ` Keld Simonsen
2016-02-22 8:12 ` keld at keldix dot com
2016-02-22 10:13 ` vapier at gentoo dot org
2019-01-02 11:59 ` Keld Simonsen
2018-12-20 8:38 ` pander at users dot sourceforge.net
2018-12-20 9:52 ` pander at users dot sourceforge.net
2019-01-01 11:42 ` pander at users dot sourceforge.net
2019-01-02 11:59 ` keld at keldix dot com
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