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* [Bug localedata/31530] New: Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
@ 2024-03-22 12:53 2odissey at gmail dot com
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            Bug ID: 31530
           Summary: Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
           Product: glibc
           Version: unspecified
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: localedata
          Assignee: unassigned at sourceware dot org
          Reporter: 2odissey at gmail dot com
                CC: libc-locales at sourceware dot org
  Target Milestone: ---

Created attachment 15427
  --> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=15427&action=edit
Moksha locale file

Hello

I'm helping the Moksha speaking users to implemnt Moksha locale support in
glibc and other software.

Give me know, if any errors or problems with the locale file will be found. And
I will fix it.

Best Regards,
Pavel

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* [Bug localedata/31530] Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
  2024-03-22 12:53 [Bug localedata/31530] New: Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU 2odissey at gmail dot com
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Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
Created attachment 15428
  --> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=15428&action=edit
UTF-8 conversion

Locales should use UTF-8 nowadays. I'm attaching a semi-manual conversion.
Please double-check.

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* [Bug localedata/31530] Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
  2024-03-22 12:53 [Bug localedata/31530] New: Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU 2odissey at gmail dot com
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2Odissey <2odissey at gmail dot com> changed:

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--- Comment #2 from 2Odissey <2odissey at gmail dot com> ---
(In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #1)
> Created attachment 15428 [details]
> UTF-8 conversion
> 
> Locales should use UTF-8 nowadays. I'm attaching a semi-manual conversion.
> Please double-check.

Hello, Florian Weimer!

I've re-checked the new UTF-8 converted file. It's correct.

Thank you for help!

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* [Bug localedata/31530] Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
  2024-03-22 12:53 [Bug localedata/31530] New: Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU 2odissey at gmail dot com
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Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> changed:

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                 CC|                            |maiku.fabian at gmail dot com
   Target Milestone|---                         |2.40
           Assignee|unassigned at sourceware dot org   |maiku.fabian at gmail dot com

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* [Bug localedata/31530] Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
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Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |ASSIGNED
   Last reconfirmed|                            |2024-05-07
     Ever confirmed|0                           |1

--- Comment #3 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
Patch posted to mailing list:
https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2024-May/156599.html

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* [Bug localedata/31530] Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
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Кирилл Изместьев <izmestevks at basealt dot ru> changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Кирилл Изместьев <izmestevks at basealt dot ru> ---
(In reply to 2Odissey from comment #2)
> (In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #1)
> > Created attachment 15428 [details]
> > UTF-8 conversion
> > 
> > Locales should use UTF-8 nowadays. I'm attaching a semi-manual conversion.
> > Please double-check.
> 
> Hello, Florian Weimer!
> 
> I've re-checked the new UTF-8 converted file. It's correct.
> 
> Thank you for help!
The days of the week must be named:
Атянжи 
Шавши
Вержи 
Шуваланя
Пяденця 
Ёткши
Недляши
https://infourok.ru/rabochaya-programma-po-mokshanskomu-yaziku-v-klasse-462815.html
Please correct.

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* [Bug localedata/31530] Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
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--- Comment #5 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
(In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #4)
> (In reply to 2Odissey from comment #2)
> > (In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #1)
> > > Created attachment 15428 [details]
> > > UTF-8 conversion
> > > 
> > > Locales should use UTF-8 nowadays. I'm attaching a semi-manual conversion.
> > > Please double-check.
> > 
> > Hello, Florian Weimer!
> > 
> > I've re-checked the new UTF-8 converted file. It's correct.
> > 
> > Thank you for help!
> The days of the week must be named:
> Атянжи 
> Шавши
> Вержи 
> Шуваланя
> Пяденця 
> Ёткши
> Недляши
> https://infourok.ru/rabochaya-programma-po-mokshanskomu-yaziku-v-klasse-
> 462815.html
> Please correct.

Is the Wikipedia page quoted in mdf_RU wrong?:

LC_TIME
% day - The full names of the week days:
% https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Days_of_the_week
day     "таргоши";/
        "одговши";/
        "шавши";/
        "вержи";/
        "шуваланя";/
        "цилеши";/
        "ёткши"
% abday - The abbreviations for the week days:
abday   "тар";/
        "одг";/
        "шав";/
        "вер";/
        "шув";/
        "цил";/
        "ётк"

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* [Bug localedata/31530] Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
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--- Comment #6 from Кирилл Изместьев <izmestevks at basealt dot ru> ---
(In reply to Mike FABIAN from comment #5)
> (In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #4)
> > (In reply to 2Odissey from comment #2)
> > > (In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #1)
> > > > Created attachment 15428 [details]
> > > > UTF-8 conversion
> > > > 
> > > > Locales should use UTF-8 nowadays. I'm attaching a semi-manual conversion.
> > > > Please double-check.
> > > 
> > > Hello, Florian Weimer!
> > > 
> > > I've re-checked the new UTF-8 converted file. It's correct.
> > > 
> > > Thank you for help!
> > The days of the week must be named:
> > Атянжи 
> > Шавши
> > Вержи 
> > Шуваланя
> > Пяденця 
> > Ёткши
> > Недляши
> > https://infourok.ru/rabochaya-programma-po-mokshanskomu-yaziku-v-klasse-
> > 462815.html
> > Please correct.
> 
> Is the Wikipedia page quoted in mdf_RU wrong?:
> 
> LC_TIME
> % day - The full names of the week days:
> % https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Days_of_the_week
> day     "таргоши";/
>         "одговши";/
>         "шавши";/
>         "вержи";/
>         "шуваланя";/
>         "цилеши";/
>         "ёткши"
> % abday - The abbreviations for the week days:
> abday   "тар";/
>         "одг";/
>         "шав";/
>         "вер";/
>         "шув";/
>         "цил";/
>         "ётк"

My friend, who is a native speaker and has a degree in philology in the Moksha
language, claims that the names of the days of week in the literary Moksha
language are exactly as I wrote. Apparently there is a mistake in Wikipedia.
School curriculum is a more reliable source.

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* [Bug localedata/31530] Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
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--- Comment #7 from Кирилл Изместьев <izmestevks at basealt dot ru> ---
Created attachment 15496
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Days of the week in moksha textbook

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* [Bug localedata/31530] Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
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--- Comment #8 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
(In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #6)
> (In reply to Mike FABIAN from comment #5)
> > (In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #4)
> > > (In reply to 2Odissey from comment #2)
> > > > (In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #1)
> > > > > Created attachment 15428 [details]
> > > > > UTF-8 conversion
> > > > > 
> > > > > Locales should use UTF-8 nowadays. I'm attaching a semi-manual conversion.
> > > > > Please double-check.
> > > > 
> > > > Hello, Florian Weimer!
> > > > 
> > > > I've re-checked the new UTF-8 converted file. It's correct.
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you for help!
> > > The days of the week must be named:
> > > Атянжи 
> > > Шавши
> > > Вержи 
> > > Шуваланя
> > > Пяденця 
> > > Ёткши
> > > Недляши
> > > https://infourok.ru/rabochaya-programma-po-mokshanskomu-yaziku-v-klasse-
> > > 462815.html
> > > Please correct.
> > 
> > Is the Wikipedia page quoted in mdf_RU wrong?:
> > 
> > LC_TIME
> > % day - The full names of the week days:
> > % https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Days_of_the_week
> > day     "таргоши";/
> >         "одговши";/
> >         "шавши";/
> >         "вержи";/
> >         "шуваланя";/
> >         "цилеши";/
> >         "ёткши"
> > % abday - The abbreviations for the week days:
> > abday   "тар";/
> >         "одг";/
> >         "шав";/
> >         "вер";/
> >         "шув";/
> >         "цил";/
> >         "ётк"
> 
> My friend, who is a native speaker and has a degree in philology in the
> Moksha language, claims that the names of the days of week in the literary
> Moksha language are exactly as I wrote. Apparently there is a mistake in
> Wikipedia. School curriculum is a more reliable source.

So is the following correct?:

LC_TIME
% day - The full names of the week days:
% Wikipedia has something different:
% https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Days_of_the_week
% the following is from:
% https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=31530#c6
day     "Недляши";/
        "Атянжи";/
        "Шавши";/
        "Вержи";/
        "Шуваланя";/
        "Пяденця";/
        "Ёткши"
% abday - The abbreviations for the week days:
abday   "Нед";/
        "Атя";/
        "Шав";/
        "Вер";/
        "Шув";/
        "Пяд";/
        "Ётк"

Note that Sunday is on top!

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* [Bug localedata/31530] Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
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--- Comment #9 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
(In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #6)

> My friend, who is a native speaker and has a degree in philology in the
> Moksha language, claims that the names of the days of week in the literary
> Moksha language are exactly as I wrote. Apparently there is a mistake in
> Wikipedia. School curriculum is a more reliable source.

It would be nice if you could fix it in Wikipedia as well then.

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* [Bug localedata/31530] Locale file for Moksha - mdf_RU
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--- Comment #10 from Кирилл Изместьев <izmestevks at basealt dot ru> ---
(In reply to Mike FABIAN from comment #8)
> (In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #6)
> > (In reply to Mike FABIAN from comment #5)
> > > (In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #4)
> > > > (In reply to 2Odissey from comment #2)
> > > > > (In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #1)
> > > > > > Created attachment 15428 [details]
> > > > > > UTF-8 conversion
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Locales should use UTF-8 nowadays. I'm attaching a semi-manual conversion.
> > > > > > Please double-check.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hello, Florian Weimer!
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've re-checked the new UTF-8 converted file. It's correct.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you for help!
> > > > The days of the week must be named:
> > > > Атянжи 
> > > > Шавши
> > > > Вержи 
> > > > Шуваланя
> > > > Пяденця 
> > > > Ёткши
> > > > Недляши
> > > > https://infourok.ru/rabochaya-programma-po-mokshanskomu-yaziku-v-klasse-
> > > > 462815.html
> > > > Please correct.
> > > 
> > > Is the Wikipedia page quoted in mdf_RU wrong?:
> > > 
> > > LC_TIME
> > > % day - The full names of the week days:
> > > % https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Days_of_the_week
> > > day     "таргоши";/
> > >         "одговши";/
> > >         "шавши";/
> > >         "вержи";/
> > >         "шуваланя";/
> > >         "цилеши";/
> > >         "ёткши"
> > > % abday - The abbreviations for the week days:
> > > abday   "тар";/
> > >         "одг";/
> > >         "шав";/
> > >         "вер";/
> > >         "шув";/
> > >         "цил";/
> > >         "ётк"
> > 
> > My friend, who is a native speaker and has a degree in philology in the
> > Moksha language, claims that the names of the days of week in the literary
> > Moksha language are exactly as I wrote. Apparently there is a mistake in
> > Wikipedia. School curriculum is a more reliable source.
> 
> So is the following correct?:
> 
> LC_TIME
> % day - The full names of the week days:
> % Wikipedia has something different:
> % https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Days_of_the_week
> % the following is from:
> % https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=31530#c6
> day     "Недляши";/
>         "Атянжи";/
>         "Шавши";/
>         "Вержи";/
>         "Шуваланя";/
>         "Пяденця";/
>         "Ёткши"
> % abday - The abbreviations for the week days:
> abday   "Нед";/
>         "Атя";/
>         "Шав";/
>         "Вер";/
>         "Шув";/
>         "Пяд";/
>         "Ётк"
> 
> Note that Sunday is on top!

Of course Sunday is at the top. I checked with the specialist again. Note that
Monday is written with a sign "ь". The final version:

LC_TIME
% day - The full names of the week days:
% Wikipedia has something different:
% https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Days_of_the_week
% the following is from:
% https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=31530#c6
day     "Недляши";/
        "Атяньжи";/
        "Шавши";/
        "Вержи";/
        "Шуваланя";/
        "Пяденця";/
        "Ёткши"
% abday - The abbreviations for the week days:
abday   "Нед";/
        "Атя";/
        "Шав";/
        "Вер";/
        "Шув";/
        "Пяд";/
        "Ётк"

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--- Comment #11 from Кирилл Изместьев <izmestevks at basealt dot ru> ---
(In reply to Mike FABIAN from comment #9)
> (In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #6)
> 
> > My friend, who is a native speaker and has a degree in philology in the
> > Moksha language, claims that the names of the days of week in the literary
> > Moksha language are exactly as I wrote. Apparently there is a mistake in
> > Wikipedia. School curriculum is a more reliable source.
> 
> It would be nice if you could fix it in Wikipedia as well then.

Done.

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--- Comment #12 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
(In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #11)
> (In reply to Mike FABIAN from comment #9)
> > (In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #6)
> > 
> > > My friend, who is a native speaker and has a degree in philology in the
> > > Moksha language, claims that the names of the days of week in the literary
> > > Moksha language are exactly as I wrote. Apparently there is a mistake in
> > > Wikipedia. School curriculum is a more reliable source.
> > 
> > It would be nice if you could fix it in Wikipedia as well then.
> 
> Done.

Great! Thank you!

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--- Comment #13 from Sourceware Commits <cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
The master branch has been updated by Mike Fabian <mfabian@sourceware.org>:

https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=glibc.git;h=79fe4a0fa07d0fff98888965f47842251f554dd4

commit 79fe4a0fa07d0fff98888965f47842251f554dd4
Author: Mike FABIAN <mfabian@redhat.com>
Date:   Tue May 7 11:12:38 2024 +0200

    localedata: add mdf_RU locale

    Resolves: BZ # 31530

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Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|ASSIGNED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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Pushed to master, will be in glibc 2.40

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--- Comment #15 from 2Odissey <2odissey at gmail dot com> ---
(In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #10)
> (In reply to Mike FABIAN from comment #8)
> > (In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #6)
> > > (In reply to Mike FABIAN from comment #5)
> > > > (In reply to Кирилл Изместьев from comment #4)
> > > > > (In reply to 2Odissey from comment #2)
> > > > > > (In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #1)
> > > > > > > Created attachment 15428 [details]
> > > > > > > UTF-8 conversion
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Locales should use UTF-8 nowadays. I'm attaching a semi-manual conversion.
> > > > > > > Please double-check.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hello, Florian Weimer!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I've re-checked the new UTF-8 converted file. It's correct.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thank you for help!
> > > > > The days of the week must be named:
> > > > > Атянжи 
> > > > > Шавши
> > > > > Вержи 
> > > > > Шуваланя
> > > > > Пяденця 
> > > > > Ёткши
> > > > > Недляши
> > > > > https://infourok.ru/rabochaya-programma-po-mokshanskomu-yaziku-v-klasse-
> > > > > 462815.html
> > > > > Please correct.
> > > > 
> > > > Is the Wikipedia page quoted in mdf_RU wrong?:
> > > > 
> > > > LC_TIME
> > > > % day - The full names of the week days:
> > > > % https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Days_of_the_week
> > > > day     "таргоши";/
> > > >         "одговши";/
> > > >         "шавши";/
> > > >         "вержи";/
> > > >         "шуваланя";/
> > > >         "цилеши";/
> > > >         "ёткши"
> > > > % abday - The abbreviations for the week days:
> > > > abday   "тар";/
> > > >         "одг";/
> > > >         "шав";/
> > > >         "вер";/
> > > >         "шув";/
> > > >         "цил";/
> > > >         "ётк"
> > > 
> > > My friend, who is a native speaker and has a degree in philology in the
> > > Moksha language, claims that the names of the days of week in the literary
> > > Moksha language are exactly as I wrote. Apparently there is a mistake in
> > > Wikipedia. School curriculum is a more reliable source.
> > 
> > So is the following correct?:
> > 
> > LC_TIME
> > % day - The full names of the week days:
> > % Wikipedia has something different:
> > % https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Days_of_the_week
> > % the following is from:
> > % https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=31530#c6
> > day     "Недляши";/
> >         "Атянжи";/
> >         "Шавши";/
> >         "Вержи";/
> >         "Шуваланя";/
> >         "Пяденця";/
> >         "Ёткши"
> > % abday - The abbreviations for the week days:
> > abday   "Нед";/
> >         "Атя";/
> >         "Шав";/
> >         "Вер";/
> >         "Шув";/
> >         "Пяд";/
> >         "Ётк"
> > 
> > Note that Sunday is on top!
> 
> Of course Sunday is at the top. I checked with the specialist again. Note
> that Monday is written with a sign "ь". The final version:
> 
> LC_TIME
> % day - The full names of the week days:
> % Wikipedia has something different:
> % https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Days_of_the_week
> % the following is from:
> % https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=31530#c6
> day     "Недляши";/
>         "Атяньжи";/
>         "Шавши";/
>         "Вержи";/
>         "Шуваланя";/
>         "Пяденця";/
>         "Ёткши"
> % abday - The abbreviations for the week days:
> abday   "Нед";/
>         "Атя";/
>         "Шав";/
>         "Вер";/
>         "Шув";/
>         "Пяд";/
>         "Ётк"

Hello, all!

> > > "My friend, who is a native speaker and has a degree in philology in the
> > > Moksha language, claims that the names of the days of week in the literary
> > > Moksha language are exactly as I wrote."

It is NOT a proof! I'm a partly Moksha language speaker, my father is native
speaker, as my uncle and my aunt and many my friends in my locality(village
~3000 persons).

Who is this friend? And can I connect with him directly?

Аbout - "Атяньжи", "Пяденьця", "Недляши" - it's analog pidgin(mixture of moksha
language with russian).

Additional proof:
1) https://mdf.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B4%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%88%D0%B8 -
This is article about Monday on Moksha language wikipedia;

2) https://mdf.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A6%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B8 - for
Thursday

3) https://mdf.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%B8 -
for Sunday


I think that world-wide famous encyclopedic site on Moksha language with more
5000 articles and more 1 million words(a proof -
https://mdf.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA)
is more realiable source, that presentation of unknown school on unknown site.

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Wikipedia is not a primary source.

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--- Comment #19 from 2Odissey <2odissey at gmail dot com> ---
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> Wikipedia is not a primary source.

No, it isn't a primary source. But Wiki has source links and community for
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--- Comment #20 from Кирилл Изместьев <izmestevks at basealt dot ru> ---
(In reply to 2Odissey from comment #19)
> (In reply to Andreas Schwab from comment #18)
> > Wikipedia is not a primary source.
> 
> No, it isn't a primary source. But Wiki has source links and community for
> checking.

I emailed you the contact information of a linguist I know.

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--- Comment #21 from 2Odissey <2odissey at gmail dot com> ---

Hello, all!

I've done some additional research and I understand that I did mistake in my
variant of locale file.
My apologies for it!


Thanks a lot to Кирилл Изместьев for his correction of my mistake and the 
specialist's contact!

Thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion and resolution of this
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--- Comment #22 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
(In reply to 2Odissey from comment #21)
> Hello, all!
> 
> I've done some additional research and I understand that I did mistake in my
> variant of locale file.
> My apologies for it!
> 
> 
> Thanks a lot to Кирилл Изместьев for his correction of my mistake and the 
> specialist's contact!
> 
> Thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion and resolution of this
> issue!

So everything is OK now?

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--- Comment #23 from 2Odissey <2odissey at gmail dot com> ---
(In reply to Mike FABIAN from comment #22)
> (In reply to 2Odissey from comment #21)
> > Hello, all!
> > 
> > I've done some additional research and I understand that I did mistake in my
> > variant of locale file.
> > My apologies for it!
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks a lot to Кирилл Изместьев for his correction of my mistake and the 
> > specialist's contact!
> > 
> > Thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion and resolution of this
> > issue!
> 
> So everything is OK now?

Yes. I think, it is OK now.

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