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From: Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>
To: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>
Cc: Maxim Kuvyrkov <maxim@codesourcery.com>,
	   Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>,
	   David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	   <joseph@codesourcery.com>,    <rdsandiford@googlemail.com>,
	   <libc-ports@sourceware.org>,    <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Unify pthread_spin_[try]lock implementations.
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:22:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120725202226.560582C0DA@topped-with-meat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Chris Metcalf's message of  Wednesday, 25 July 2012 15:03:46 -0400 <50104312.70205@tilera.com>

> The tile architecture is unlikely to use this generic version no matter
> what; see http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-ports/2012-07/msg00030.html for the
> details, but the primary point is that in a mesh-based architecture it's a
> bad idea to ever end up in a situation where all the cores can be spinning
> issues loads or cmpxchg as fast as they can, so some kind of backoff is
> necessary.

I had read that before but only noticed the explanation that the plain
reads were bad.  (Hence in my suggestion you'd share the code but with a
#define that means the loop of plain reads would be elided entirely at
compile time by constant folding.)  What kind of "backoff" do you mean?
It's probably appropriate on every machine to use "atomic_delay ();" inside
such loops.


Thanks,
Roland

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-25 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-14  4:36 [PATCH 2/3, MIPS] Rewrite MIPS' pthread_spin_[try]lock using __atomic_* builtins Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-06-28 23:10 ` Joseph S. Myers
2012-07-11  5:58   ` [PATCH] Unify pthread_spin_[try]lock implementations Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-11  8:15     ` Roland McGrath
2012-07-11  8:25       ` David Miller
2012-07-11  8:44         ` Andrew Haley
2012-07-11  8:54           ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-11  9:02             ` Andrew Haley
2012-07-11  9:05               ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-11 11:22                 ` Roland McGrath
2012-07-11 14:52                   ` Chris Metcalf
2012-07-11 22:16                   ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-25 18:13                     ` Roland McGrath
2012-07-25 19:04                       ` Chris Metcalf
2012-07-25 20:22                         ` Roland McGrath [this message]
2012-07-25 20:29                           ` Chris Metcalf
2012-07-25 20:43                             ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15  3:17                       ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-08-15 16:27                         ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15 16:39                           ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-08-15 16:44                             ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15 16:53                               ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-08-15 16:56                                 ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15 17:05                                   ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-08-15 17:05                             ` Jeff Law
2012-08-15 17:11                               ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15 17:24                                 ` Jeff Law
2012-08-15 16:40                         ` Joseph S. Myers
2012-08-15 16:43                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2012-08-15 22:00                         ` Andreas Schwab
2012-08-16 10:21                         ` Torvald Riegel
2012-08-16 12:40                           ` Chris Metcalf
2012-08-22 23:16                           ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-11  8:26       ` Maxim Kuvyrkov

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