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From: Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>
To: Maxim Kuvyrkov <maxim@codesourcery.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	roland@hack.frob.com,        joseph@codesourcery.com,
	rdsandiford@googlemail.com,        libc-ports@sourceware.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Unify pthread_spin_[try]lock implementations.
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:02:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FFD4114.9000806@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84304C03-6A49-4263-9016-05486EDC0E98@codesourcery.com>

On 07/11/2012 09:53 AM, Maxim Kuvyrkov wrote:
> On 11/07/2012, at 8:44 PM, Andrew Haley wrote:
> 
>> On 07/11/2012 09:25 AM, David Miller wrote:
>>> From: Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 01:14:41 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>>>> +int
>>>>> +pthread_spin_lock (pthread_spinlock_t *lock)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +  while (atomic_compare_and_exchange_val_acq (lock, 1, 0) != 0)
>>>>> +    while (*lock != 0)
>>>>> +      ;
>>>>
>>>> What's the inner loop for?
>>>
>>> I guess the idea is to spin with non-atomic reads when the lock is
>>> contended so we don't do expensive bus cycles grabbing the cache line
>>> in exclusive state over and over again.
>>>
>>> If we spun using only the atomic it would be very expensive.
>>
>> Sure, but on ARM at least there's no guarantee that the local processor
>> will see changes to the state of the lock when another processor frees
>> it.
> 
> Hm, but this is exactly what ARM port does and did for a while.  I
> guess the memory on the local processor eventually gets updated and
> the loop breaks.

Maybe the thread ends its time slice and gets interrupted.  There
aren't any guarantees.

> This is an interesting point and maybe introducing a counter like
> below will improve spinlocks for ARM.
> 
> +  int counter = 123456;
> +  while (atomic_compare_and_exchange_val_acq (lock, 1, 0) != 0)
> +    while (*lock != 0 && --counter)
> +      ;

This is a much better idea than an unbounded spin.

Andrew.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-11  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-14  4:36 [PATCH 2/3, MIPS] Rewrite MIPS' pthread_spin_[try]lock using __atomic_* builtins Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-06-28 23:10 ` Joseph S. Myers
2012-07-11  5:58   ` [PATCH] Unify pthread_spin_[try]lock implementations Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-11  8:15     ` Roland McGrath
2012-07-11  8:25       ` David Miller
2012-07-11  8:44         ` Andrew Haley
2012-07-11  8:54           ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-11  9:02             ` Andrew Haley [this message]
2012-07-11  9:05               ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-11 11:22                 ` Roland McGrath
2012-07-11 14:52                   ` Chris Metcalf
2012-07-11 22:16                   ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-25 18:13                     ` Roland McGrath
2012-07-25 19:04                       ` Chris Metcalf
2012-07-25 20:22                         ` Roland McGrath
2012-07-25 20:29                           ` Chris Metcalf
2012-07-25 20:43                             ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15  3:17                       ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-08-15 16:27                         ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15 16:39                           ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-08-15 16:44                             ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15 16:53                               ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-08-15 16:56                                 ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15 17:05                                   ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-08-15 17:05                             ` Jeff Law
2012-08-15 17:11                               ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15 17:24                                 ` Jeff Law
2012-08-15 16:40                         ` Joseph S. Myers
2012-08-15 16:43                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2012-08-15 22:00                         ` Andreas Schwab
2012-08-16 10:21                         ` Torvald Riegel
2012-08-16 12:40                           ` Chris Metcalf
2012-08-22 23:16                           ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-11  8:26       ` Maxim Kuvyrkov

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