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From: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>
Cc: Maxim Kuvyrkov <maxim@codesourcery.com>,
	Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>,	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	<joseph@codesourcery.com>,	<rdsandiford@googlemail.com>,
	<libc-ports@sourceware.org>,	<libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Unify pthread_spin_[try]lock implementations.
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:04:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50104312.70205@tilera.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120725181300.DD1812C0B5@topped-with-meat.com>

On 7/25/2012 2:13 PM, Roland McGrath wrote:
> Here I think the reasonable thing to do is:
>
> /* A machine-specific version can define SPIN_LOCK_READS_BETWEEN_CMPXCHG
>    to the number of plain reads that it's optimal to spin on between uses
>    of atomic_compare_and_exchange_val_acq.  If spinning forever is optimal
>    then use -1.  If no plain reads here would ever be optimal, use 0.  */
> #ifndef SPIN_LOCK_READS_BETWEEN_CMPXCHG
> # warning machine-dependent file should define SPIN_LOCK_READS_BETWEEN_CMPXCHG
> # define SPIN_LOCK_READS_BETWEEN_CMPXCHG 1000
> #endif
>
> Then ARM et al can do:
>
> /* Machine-dependent rationale about the selection of this value.  */
> #define SPIN_LOCK_READS_BETWEEN_CMPXCHG 1000
> #include <nptl/pthread_spin_lock.c>
>
> while Teil will use -1.

The tile architecture is unlikely to use this generic version no matter
what; see http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-ports/2012-07/msg00030.html for the
details, but the primary point is that in a mesh-based architecture it's a
bad idea to ever end up in a situation where all the cores can be spinning
issues loads or cmpxchg as fast as they can, so some kind of backoff is
necessary.

-- 
Chris Metcalf, Tilera Corp.
http://www.tilera.com

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-25 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-14  4:36 [PATCH 2/3, MIPS] Rewrite MIPS' pthread_spin_[try]lock using __atomic_* builtins Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-06-28 23:10 ` Joseph S. Myers
2012-07-11  5:58   ` [PATCH] Unify pthread_spin_[try]lock implementations Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-11  8:15     ` Roland McGrath
2012-07-11  8:25       ` David Miller
2012-07-11  8:44         ` Andrew Haley
2012-07-11  8:54           ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-11  9:02             ` Andrew Haley
2012-07-11  9:05               ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-11 11:22                 ` Roland McGrath
2012-07-11 14:52                   ` Chris Metcalf
2012-07-11 22:16                   ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-25 18:13                     ` Roland McGrath
2012-07-25 19:04                       ` Chris Metcalf [this message]
2012-07-25 20:22                         ` Roland McGrath
2012-07-25 20:29                           ` Chris Metcalf
2012-07-25 20:43                             ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15  3:17                       ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-08-15 16:27                         ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15 16:39                           ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-08-15 16:44                             ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15 16:53                               ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-08-15 16:56                                 ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15 17:05                                   ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-08-15 17:05                             ` Jeff Law
2012-08-15 17:11                               ` Roland McGrath
2012-08-15 17:24                                 ` Jeff Law
2012-08-15 16:40                         ` Joseph S. Myers
2012-08-15 16:43                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2012-08-15 22:00                         ` Andreas Schwab
2012-08-16 10:21                         ` Torvald Riegel
2012-08-16 12:40                           ` Chris Metcalf
2012-08-22 23:16                           ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2012-07-11  8:26       ` Maxim Kuvyrkov

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