Re: Ancient Archives of ftp.sourceware.org?

[Angela Marie Thomas <angela@releasedominatrix.com>]

> On May 07, 2020, at 07:18, Jeff Law via Overseers <overseers@sourceware.org> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:01 -0500, Joel Sherrill wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 2:30 PM Jeff Law <law@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 10:44 -0500, Joel Sherrill via Overseers wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> May 4th was the 25th birthday of the oldest commit in the RTEMS repository.
>>>> Before that, there was a private repo for the research project that
>>>> produced it. We started the public repository from the last snapshot.
>>>> 
>>>> In those dark years of the early Internet, ftp.sourceware.org? had RTEMS on
>>>> it. Cygnus even included a version on a floppy they sent out. I scanned the
>>>> letter, envelope, and put the floppy contents online (
>>>> https://ftp.rtems.org/pub/rtems/people/joel/CygnusFloppyAugust1995/). I had
>>>> to buy a USB floppy drive to read the floppy.  Enjoy that flashback. :)
>>>> 
>>>> As we approach the 30th anniversary of the first public paper on RTEMS, I'd
>>>> love to find some really old versions. The version on that floppy is the
>>>> oldest one we have.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there any chance, there are easily accessible old, old, dusty versions
>>>> of ftp.sourceware.org? from before 1995?
>>> I don't think sourceware was born until 1997/1998 ;-)
>>> 
>>> Over time we've tried to populate it with old releases as they're found.
>> 
>> Wow! How was newlib distributed back in the dark pre-sourceware age?
>> I know we used it before 97/98 and got it via ftp. 
> I don't remember.   I would expect official releases from the newlib project
> would have been via ftp *somewhere*, but I don't know where.  It was a long time
> ago.

Back then newlib was on ftp.cygnus.com.  That's also almost certainly where any older
RTEMS releases would have been if we had any. I looked and I don't have a copy of
ftp.cygnus.com anywhere.

>> 
>> But it was enough to see that newlib 1.6 is from 1994 which is back
>> when Rob Savoye maintained it.  I kept his business card from back 
>> then because I thought Hacker was a cool job title. :)
> I believe policy was you can put whatever title you want on your cards.  We had
> some that were, umm, "interesting".

Mark Eichin had the best title, "International Arms Dealer".

Even though Julie said I had to destroy all of mine, I still have a box of
"Release Dominatrix" ones somewhere.

--Angela