SPF record for gcc.gnu.org

SPF record for gcc.gnu.org

[Ian Lance Taylor]

Hi gnu.org admins, can you set up an SPF record for gcc.gnu.org?  I
think that may reduce some cases where e-mail from gcc.gnu.org is
getting incorrectly marked as spam.  All e-mail from addresses
@gcc.gnu.org should come from gcc.gnu.org itself.  Therefore, I believe
the correct SPF record should be

v=spf1 a ~all

If gnu.org runs bind, then the right entry in the zone file would be

gcc.gnu.org. IN TXT "v=spf1 a ~all"

Thanks!

Ian

Re: SPF record for gcc.gnu.org

[Gerald Pfeifer]

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> All e-mail from addresses @gcc.gnu.org should come from gcc.gnu.org 
> itself.  Therefore, I believe the correct SPF record should be

Are you sure of this?  I think I'm seeing people using
@gcc.gnu.org addresses when posting to mailing lists (cf. 
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2011-02/msg00395.html ).

Gerald

Re: SPF record for gcc.gnu.org

[Frank Ch. Eigler]

Hi -

> On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> > All e-mail from addresses @gcc.gnu.org should come from gcc.gnu.org 
> > itself.  Therefore, I believe the correct SPF record should be
> 
> Are you sure of this?  I think I'm seeing people using
> @gcc.gnu.org addresses when posting to mailing lists [...]

Good point.  And since many of those people don't have shell access on
the machine, it's not like they could easily send the mail from there.

- FChE

[gnu.org #670482] SPF record for gcc.gnu.org

[Bernie Innocenti via RT]

> [fche@redhat.com - Mon Feb 14 12:01:47 2011]:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> > On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> > > All e-mail from addresses @gcc.gnu.org should come from gcc.gnu.org 
> > > itself.  Therefore, I believe the correct SPF record should be
> > 
> > Are you sure of this?  I think I'm seeing people using
> > @gcc.gnu.org addresses when posting to mailing lists [...]
> 
> Good point.  And since many of those people don't have shell access on
> the machine, it's not like they could easily send the mail from there.

So the SPF record for gcc.gnu.org should be:

 gcc.gnu.org.   TXT   "v=spf1 a ?all"

If you agree, I'll go ahead and make the change.

-- 
Bernie Innocenti
Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation

Re: [gnu.org #670482] SPF record for gcc.gnu.org

[ian@airs.com via RT]

"Bernie Innocenti via RT" <sysadmin@gnu.org> writes:

>> > On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
>> > > All e-mail from addresses @gcc.gnu.org should come from gcc.gnu.org 
>> > > itself.  Therefore, I believe the correct SPF record should be
>> > 
>> > Are you sure of this?  I think I'm seeing people using
>> > @gcc.gnu.org addresses when posting to mailing lists [...]
>> 
>> Good point.  And since many of those people don't have shell access on
>> the machine, it's not like they could easily send the mail from there.
>
> So the SPF record for gcc.gnu.org should be:
>
>  gcc.gnu.org.   TXT   "v=spf1 a ?all"
>
> If you agree, I'll go ahead and make the change.

OK, let's do that.  Thanks.

I actually think it is very unwise for people to send e-mail using
addresses @gcc.gnu.org.  gcc.gnu.org hosts software development
projects, and is absolutely not intended to serve as an e-mail
forwarding address.  However, I suppose we shouldn't break people doing
that without any notice.

Ian

Re: [gnu.org #670482] SPF record for gcc.gnu.org

[Ian Lance Taylor]

"Bernie Innocenti via RT" <sysadmin@gnu.org> writes:

>> > On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
>> > > All e-mail from addresses @gcc.gnu.org should come from gcc.gnu.org 
>> > > itself.  Therefore, I believe the correct SPF record should be
>> > 
>> > Are you sure of this?  I think I'm seeing people using
>> > @gcc.gnu.org addresses when posting to mailing lists [...]
>> 
>> Good point.  And since many of those people don't have shell access on
>> the machine, it's not like they could easily send the mail from there.
>
> So the SPF record for gcc.gnu.org should be:
>
>  gcc.gnu.org.   TXT   "v=spf1 a ?all"
>
> If you agree, I'll go ahead and make the change.

OK, let's do that.  Thanks.

I actually think it is very unwise for people to send e-mail using
addresses @gcc.gnu.org.  gcc.gnu.org hosts software development
projects, and is absolutely not intended to serve as an e-mail
forwarding address.  However, I suppose we shouldn't break people doing
that without any notice.

Ian

[gnu.org #670482] SPF record for gcc.gnu.org

[Bernie Innocenti via RT]

> [ian@airs.com - Mon Feb 14 16:43:45 2011]:
> >  gcc.gnu.org.   TXT   "v=spf1 a ?all"
> >
> > If you agree, I'll go ahead and make the change.
> 
> OK, let's do that.  Thanks.

Ok, done.


> I actually think it is very unwise for people to send e-mail using
> addresses @gcc.gnu.org.  gcc.gnu.org hosts software development
> projects, and is absolutely not intended to serve as an e-mail
> forwarding address.  However, I suppose we shouldn't break people doing
> that without any notice.

But then, why do we give @gcc.gnu.org aliases to all maintainers? I don't use mine these days, but I've always assumed it 
was ok to use it for anything related to GCC development.

-- 
Bernie Innocenti
Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation

Re: [gnu.org #670482] SPF record for gcc.gnu.org

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 06:30:34PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti via RT wrote:
>But then, why do we give @gcc.gnu.org aliases to all maintainers?  I
>don't use mine these days, but I've always assumed it was ok to use it
>for anything related to GCC development.

We give out accounts so that people can check stuff in and receive
notifications from the system.  It isn't intended to be a free email
forwarding service even though it seems that many people think it
is.

cgf

Re: [gnu.org #670482] SPF record for gcc.gnu.org

[Christopher Faylor via RT]

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 06:30:34PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti via RT wrote:
>But then, why do we give @gcc.gnu.org aliases to all maintainers?  I
>don't use mine these days, but I've always assumed it was ok to use it
>for anything related to GCC development.

We give out accounts so that people can check stuff in and receive
notifications from the system.  It isn't intended to be a free email
forwarding service even though it seems that many people think it
is.

cgf