From: Eric McDonald <mcdonald@phy.cmich.edu>
To: Jim Kingdon <kingdon@panix.com>
Cc: xconq7@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Offtopic] Re: New Proposed Xconq Web Site Online
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:37:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0410011419530.744-100000@leon.phy.cmich.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200410010545.i915jCm04704@panix5.panix.com>
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Jim Kingdon wrote:
> > Kaj vi povas relerni nur per klopodi.
> > "And you are able to _____ ____ by/through ____." (?)
>
> Hint #1: "relerni" is a compound, "re/lern/i".
> Hint #2: I could have said "sole" in place of "nur".
> Not sure I can give a hint on "klopodi"; I don't actually know its
> etymology.
"And you are able to relearn only by using/exercising/doing." (??)
(I am trying to figure out if that makes sense in the context of
the sentence before it.)
I figured the "re" was probably the prefix with the usual meaning.
I held back because of a counterexample from Latin: "republic"
which comes from "res" and "publica" (thing of the
public/people).
> > "do ne konfuzighu" -> "that one must not confuse" -> "that one must be
> > careful not to make" (??)
>
> Hint #1: "konfuzighu" is a compound, "konfuz/igh/u".
> Hint #2: Esperanto has 6 accented characters, 5 of which are ASCIIfied
> by adding "h" at the end. One of them appears here.
> Hint #3: -igh- doesn't have a close English equivalent; you might need
> some more examples to get it.
Does "gh" make "zh" sound like with French "j" or "g" (in places)?
My guess is that "igh" is a participle stem, probably for "ed" or
"ing". I think I saw which it was in an earlier text. I will have
to look more closely again tonight.
> > I am going to have to figure out "pri"; I have seen it several times now.
> Vi bezonas lerni pri la vorto "pri".
"You ____ to learn of/from the word 'pri'."
(I will have to look at the other samples of "pri" usage again
tonight.)
> > (1) I have detected no repeated consonants or vowels thus far.
> The only counterexample I can think of is the one and only one
> Esperanto word I know of with an irregular spelling, "finna". It's a
> good reason to use the word "suoma" instead.
Is that the people or the language? With "japana", I could not
tell if it was the country or the language. Also what about the
Lapps who are reindeer herders among the "finna"; do they get to
keep their double-p?
> > (2) I have detected no potential diphthongs thus far.
> My Esperanto book lists 6 diphthongs. And no, this isn't a trick: a,
> e, i, o, and u are all monophthongs. Some of the diphthongs are quite
> common, and have been seen many times in the Esperanto text on the
> list so far.
I'll look again. I wasn't paying close attention to that aspect.
> > I suppose the language is intended to be lexically simple as well as
> > grammatically simple....
>
> Ho jes. La celo de esperanto estas ke ghi estu simpla. La alia celo
> estas esti neuxtrala.
"Oh yes. The point/reason/purpose of Esperanto is that it must be
simple. The other point/reason/purpose is to be neutral."
Eric
prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-01 18:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-29 19:26 Feneric Brown
2004-09-30 0:36 ` Eric McDonald
2004-09-30 23:49 ` Jim Kingdon
2004-10-01 5:00 ` [Offtopic] " Eric McDonald
2004-10-01 5:55 ` Jim Kingdon
2004-10-01 18:37 ` Eric McDonald [this message]
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