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From: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com>
To: DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com>
Cc: binutils@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Adding a SECURITY.md document to the Binutils
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 13:49:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKOQZ8wzHN+2RDXnOVtFyBmtSYhqD5HSC2dNi1PacbVKcgOD5g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xn3552xn6q.fsf@greed.delorie.com>

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 12:45 PM DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Ian Lance Taylor via Gdb <gdb@sourceware.org> writes:
> > Compilers and linkers must behave in a reasonable manner when given
> > untrusted input.
>
> Are we confusing trusted with well-behaved?  I mean, if I download a
> source tree from the FSF's git server, I trust it, but it may still be
> ill-behaved.  Meanwhile, sources from a public mailing list may be
> well-behaved but not trusted.
>
> I'm only posting this because Carlos and I had long discussions about
> this before we set up the glibc pre-commit CI.  This process takes
> random patches from the public glibc mailing list, and builds them.
> WHOA!  That's dangerous!  Yes.  The patches may produce well-defined
> code, but are not trusted.  Those builds run in a tight sandbox to
> mitigate any attack attempts.  Security here is outside the scope of the
> build tools.  I don't expect gcc to scan for viruses or prevent people
> from doing "#include </etc/passwd>".

I agree that GCC does not have to scan for viruses or strange #include
statements.

I am saying that you should not need to set up a sandbox merely to
build code.  Clearly if you want to execute untrusted code, some sort
of sandbox is a minimal requirement.  I'm only talking about building
code (and, for objdump and friends, inspecting code).

Ian

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-14 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-07  8:42 Nick Clifton
2023-04-07 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 13:29   ` Nick Clifton
2023-04-11 14:23     ` Simon Marchi
2023-04-11 15:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 16:22         ` Nick Clifton
2023-04-11 16:32           ` Matt Rice
2023-04-11 18:18         ` J.W. Jagersma
2023-04-12  8:43           ` Nick Clifton
2023-04-08  6:30 ` Jan Beulich
2023-04-10 18:30 ` John Baldwin
2023-04-20 15:56   ` Nick Clifton
2023-04-11 19:45 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-12 16:02 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-12 16:26   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-12 16:52     ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-12 16:58       ` Paul Koning
2023-04-12 17:10       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13  3:51         ` Alan Modra
2023-04-13  4:25           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13  5:16             ` Alan Modra
2023-04-13 12:00               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 10:25         ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 11:53           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 12:37             ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 12:54               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 13:11                 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 13:35                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 13:40                     ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 13:56                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 14:50                         ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 15:02                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 15:05                             ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 16:42                               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-14  9:52                                 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-14 12:43                                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-14 12:49                                     ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-14 13:13                                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 15:08                             ` Paul Koning
2023-04-13 16:02                               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 16:49                                 ` Paul Koning
2023-04-13 17:00                                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 17:05                                     ` Paul Koning
2023-04-13 17:29                                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 17:37                                         ` Paul Koning
2023-04-13 18:16                                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-14 17:37                                     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-14 18:27                                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-14 20:46                                         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-14 21:24                                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-17 15:31                                           ` Michael Matz
2023-04-17 19:55                                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-14 19:45                                       ` DJ Delorie
2023-04-14 20:49                                         ` Ian Lance Taylor [this message]
2023-04-15  6:41                                           ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-04-13 16:06                               ` Richard Earnshaw

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