From: Richard Earnshaw <Richard.Earnshaw@foss.arm.com>
To: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org>,
Nick Clifton <nickc@redhat.com>,
Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>
Cc: "gdb@sourceware.org" <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Adding a SECURITY.md document to the Binutils
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:37:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <eaa76d6a-84eb-fa79-5a1a-4953e02ccabc@foss.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7b6b10f8-e480-8efa-fbb8-4fc4bf2cf356@gotplt.org>
On 13/04/2023 12:53, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
> On 2023-04-13 06:25, Richard Earnshaw wrote:
>> So mention of networks reminds me that you don't always need privilege
>> escalation to have a security compromise - simply transmitting a file
>> to a third party, if that wasn't intended, would be enough.
>
> None of the tools can guarantee this with untrusted input when executing
> as a local user; this is why the last bit of sandboxing to analyze
> untrusted input comes in.
>
>> So I would suggest:
>>
>> A security bug is one that threatens the security of a system or
>> network, or might compromise the security of data stored on it. In
>> the context of GNU Binutils there are two ways in which such bugs
>> might occur. In the first, the programs themselves might be tricked
>> into a direct compromise of security. In the second, the tools might
>> introduce
>
> "Direct compromise of security" is essentially what we're trying to
> define more strongly to prevent spurious CVE assignments.
If a user can be tricked into opening a corrupt file (eg object file)
and that causes a buffer overflow that's then used to send another file
to a third party, you can't really pretend that's not a direct
compromise of security. We live in the real world and this sort of
threat is real.
>
>> a vulnerability in the generated output that was not already present
>> in the files used as input.
>>
>> Note: none of the programs in the GNU Binutils suite need elevated
>> system privileges (eg setuid) to operate and we recommend that users
>> do not use them from accounts where such privileges are automatically
>> available.
>
> We did have CVE-2021-20197, so it's not always setuid.
Which is exactly the sort of scenario I was trying to exclude by this
statement - don't run the tools with elevated privileges.
R.
>
> Thanks,
> Sid
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-13 12:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-07 8:42 Nick Clifton
2023-04-07 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 13:29 ` Nick Clifton
2023-04-11 14:23 ` Simon Marchi
2023-04-11 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 16:22 ` Nick Clifton
2023-04-11 16:32 ` Matt Rice
2023-04-11 18:18 ` J.W. Jagersma
2023-04-12 8:43 ` Nick Clifton
2023-04-08 6:30 ` Jan Beulich
2023-04-10 18:30 ` John Baldwin
2023-04-20 15:56 ` Nick Clifton
2023-04-11 19:45 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-12 16:02 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-12 16:26 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-12 16:52 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-12 16:58 ` Paul Koning
2023-04-12 17:10 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 3:51 ` Alan Modra
2023-04-13 4:25 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 5:16 ` Alan Modra
2023-04-13 12:00 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 10:25 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 11:53 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 12:37 ` Richard Earnshaw [this message]
2023-04-13 12:54 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 13:11 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 13:35 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 13:40 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 13:56 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 14:50 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 15:02 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 15:05 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-13 16:42 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-14 9:52 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-14 12:43 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-14 12:49 ` Richard Earnshaw
2023-04-14 13:13 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 15:08 ` Paul Koning
2023-04-13 16:02 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 16:49 ` Paul Koning
2023-04-13 17:00 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 17:05 ` Paul Koning
2023-04-13 17:29 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-13 17:37 ` Paul Koning
2023-04-13 18:16 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-14 17:37 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-14 18:27 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-14 20:46 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-14 21:24 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-04-17 15:31 ` Michael Matz
2023-04-17 19:55 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-14 19:45 ` DJ Delorie
2023-04-14 20:49 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2023-04-15 6:41 ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-04-13 16:06 ` Richard Earnshaw
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