Re: ☠ Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)

Re: ☠ Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)

[Sam James]

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> On 30 Jan 2023, at 06:27, Steve Kargl via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:

Hi Steve,

> Please remove the skull and cross bones in the subject line.

This is a sourceware project so I've CC'd the buildbot mailing list where we discuss
these matters.

Does the emoji bother you, or is it the skull and crossbones specifically (which is
a recognised symbol for a hazard)?

Note that this is the default upstream from the Buildbot project (we use their
software) too. We haven't chosen it ourselves.

Thanks,
sam

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Re: ☠ Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)

[Jerry D]

On 1/30/23 5:46 AM, Sam James wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 30 Jan 2023, at 06:27, Steve Kargl via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
>> Please remove the skull and cross bones in the subject line.
> 
> This is a sourceware project so I've CC'd the buildbot mailing list where we discuss
> these matters.
> 
> Does the emoji bother you, or is it the skull and crossbones specifically (which is
> a recognised symbol for a hazard)?
> 
> Note that this is the default upstream from the Buildbot project (we use their
> software) too. We haven't chosen it ourselves.
> 
> Thanks,
> sam

As long as your asking it just looks stupid, childish to think anyone 
needs an emoji in what we try think is a professional product. ( Too 
informal? )

If that's not enough, how about corny, or something for 12 year olds.

Yep, it's just stupid.  I don't have an issue with bots, I just don't 
need emojis outside of my personal chats on my phone.

If it is suppose to be a notification, how about just the word "Alert" 
or "Notice"

Regards,

Jerry

Jerry

Re: Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)

[Thomas Schwinge]

Hi!

On 2023-01-30T14:50:08-0800, Steve Kargl via Fortran <fortran@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
> Does the skull and crossbones convey anymore info than the rest of
> the subject line
>
>     Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)

They convey as much additional information as does (automated) colorful
syntax highlighting, or (manual) source code line indentation: "none" to
some, "a lot" to others.


Grüße
 Thomas
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Re: Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)

[LIU Hao]

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在 2023-01-31 21:13, Thomas Schwinge 写道:
> Hi!
> 
> On 2023-01-30T14:50:08-0800, Steve Kargl via Fortran <fortran@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>> Does the skull and crossbones convey anymore info than the rest of
>> the subject line
>>
>>      Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)
> 
> They convey as much additional information as does (automated) colorful
> syntax highlighting, or (manual) source code line indentation: "none" to
> some, "a lot" to others.
> 
> 

First, I'd argue that 'emoji characters imply spammer' makes little sense. Everyone can examine the 
source of all messages in this thread and their `X-Spam-Status` headers. The fact is that, so far no 
message had been given a tag for having emoji/bad/obfuscated characters in its subject.

Second, I also agree that the skull carries NO additional information. What happened? Where did it 
happen? How severe was it? What should we do about it? A skull is neither descriptive nor 
informative, and is very unfriendly for message filters. A tag there might look much more helpful, 
such as [BUILDBOT] or [FAIL].




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Best regards,
LIU Hao


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Re: Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)

[Steve Kargl]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 10:38:02PM +0800, LIU Hao wrote:
> 在 2023-01-31 21:13, Thomas Schwinge 写道:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > On 2023-01-30T14:50:08-0800, Steve Kargl via Fortran <fortran@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
> > > Does the skull and crossbones convey anymore info than the rest of
> > > the subject line
> > > 
> > >      Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)
> > 
> > They convey as much additional information as does (automated) colorful
> > syntax highlighting, or (manual) source code line indentation: "none" to
> > some, "a lot" to others.
> > 
> > 
> 
> First, I'd argue that 'emoji characters imply spammer' makes little sense.
> Everyone can examine the source of all messages in this thread and their
> `X-Spam-Status` headers. The fact is that, so far no message had been given
> a tag for having emoji/bad/obfuscated characters in its subject.
> 

The irony! Your email ended up in one of my spam folders.

X-junkfilter: 20020519
X-Spammer: bodychk-domains: 126.com>
        domains: 126.com

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Steve