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From: "rsandifo at gcc dot gnu.org" <gcc-bugzilla@gcc.gnu.org>
To: gcc-bugs@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: [Bug target/110751] RISC-V: Suport undefined value that allows VSETVL PASS use TA/MA
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:47:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-110751-4-njuN2ickNY@http.gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-110751-4@http.gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/>

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=110751

--- Comment #18 from rsandifo at gcc dot gnu.org <rsandifo at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
I'd understood LLVM's undef as essentially being “unspecified”, or “unspecified
bit-pattern” to quote the docs.  It doesn't indicate undefined behaviour in the
C/C++ sense:

  Undefined values are useful because they indicate to the compiler that
  the program is well defined no matter what value is used.

And I think that's what we want here.  The reason we have
TARGET_PREFERRED_ELSE_VALUE is that the vectoriser sometimes doesn't care what
values the inactive lanes of the result have.  The else value can be anything
without affecting the validity of the program.  So if we had undef, we wouldn't
need the hook.

I think the same thing applies to a VEC_PERM_EXPR that only selects from the
first vector.  We canonicalise that by duplicating the vector input, but IMO an
undef second operand would be more accurate.

An undef value would also allow us to represent “don't care” indices in a
permute index vector, such as -1 in a __builtin_shuffle call.  (There were
times when I wanted the same thing in the vectoriser too, but I can't remember
where.)  There again, a separate “care/don't care” mask might be better for
VLA.

ACLE provides “svundef” functions that have essentially the same semantics as
LLVM's undef.

So I Think it would be useful to be able to access the semantics outside of
these particular IFNs.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-21 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-20  9:03 [Bug target/110751] New: " xuli1 at eswincomputing dot com
2023-07-20  9:10 ` [Bug target/110751] " juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-07-20  9:30 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-07-20  9:37 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-07-20  9:58 ` kito at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-07-20 11:28 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2023-07-20 11:43 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-07-20 12:00 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-07-20 12:35 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2023-07-20 12:42 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-07-20 12:45 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2023-07-20 12:50 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-07-20 12:56 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2023-07-20 13:29 ` rsandifo at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-07-20 13:32 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2023-07-20 22:03 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-07-21  1:53 ` xuli1 at eswincomputing dot com
2023-07-21  6:17 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-07-21 12:47 ` rsandifo at gcc dot gnu.org [this message]
2023-07-21 12:53 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-07-21 13:23 ` rsandifo at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-07-24  6:20 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2023-07-25  7:05 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-12 11:44 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-12 14:24 ` rsandifo at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-09-12 14:53 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-12 15:59 ` rsandifo at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-09-12 16:21 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-12 16:27 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-12 16:31 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-12 22:44 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-13  7:56 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-09-13  8:34 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-13  8:39 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-13  9:38 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-09-13  9:39 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-09-13  9:48 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-13  9:48 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-13 10:15 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2023-09-13 22:39 ` rsandifo at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-09-14  8:53 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-14  9:15 ` richard.sandiford at arm dot com
2023-09-20 16:27 ` cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-09-21  9:13 ` cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-09-21  9:28 ` juzhe.zhong at rivai dot ai
2023-09-22  7:31 ` xuli1 at eswincomputing dot com
2023-09-22  7:33 ` xuli1 at eswincomputing dot com

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