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From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@embecosm.com>
To: Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, Andrew Waterman <andrew@sifive.com>,
	 Jim Wilson <jim.wilson.gcc@gmail.com>,
	Kito Cheng <kito.cheng@gmail.com>,
	 Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/44] RISC-V: Rework branch costing model for if-conversion
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:34:58 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.2311211610490.5892@tpp.orcam.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7ec2ebde-9242-4907-85d9-d76e84bea5ec@gmail.com>

On Sun, 19 Nov 2023, Jeff Law wrote:

> As I suspect you know a big part of the problem here is that BRANCH_COST and
> rtx_cost don't have any common scale and thus trying to compare BRANCH_COST to
> RTX_COST doesn't have well defined meaning.

 We do have preexisting places using COSTS_N_INSNS (BRANCH_COST ()) 
though, as documented in ifcvt.cc:

     ??? Actually, instead of the branch instruction costs we might want
     to use COSTS_N_INSNS (BRANCH_COST ()) as in other places.  */

so it seems the right direction, and given that we expose this measure to 
the user (and at the very least GCC developers implementing new tuning 
microarchitectures) I think it's the only sane way to do branch costing: 
define the measure in terms of how many ordinary ALU instructions a branch 
is statistically equivalent to.

 We may have to consider whether we want/need higher resolution here, 
effectively branch costs including a fractional part.

> That hasn't kept us from trying to do precisely that and the result has always
> been less than satisfactory.  You're introducing more, but I don't think
> there's a reasonable way out of this mess at this point.

 Ack.

> > FWIW I don't understand why the test cases absolutely HAD to have such
> > overlong names guaranteed to exceed our 80 column limit in any context.
> > It's such a pain to handle.
> I dislike the long names as well.  I nearly changed them myself as part of the
> eswin submission, but that seemed a bit gratituous to me so I left them as-is.
> 
> If you wanted to rename them, be my guest, consider it pre-approved ;-)

 Ack.

> WRT the extraneous zero-extension.  Isn't that arguably a bug in the scc
> expander for risc-v?  Fixing that isn't a prerequisite here, but it probably
> worth a bit of someone's time.

 I've looked at it already and it's the middle end that ends up with the 
zero-extension, specifically `convert_move' invoked from `emit_cstore' 
down the call to `noce_try_store_flag_mask', to widen the output from 
`cstoredi4', so I don't think we can do anything in the backend to prevent 
it from happening.  And neither I think we can do anything useful about 
`cstoredi4' having a SImode output, as it's a pattern matched by name 
rather than RTX, so we can't provide variants having a SImode and a DImode 
output each both at a time, as that would cause a name clash.

 What we could do is adding new named patterns with the output mode spelt 
out explicitly, such as `cstoresidi4', `cstoredidi4', etc., but that would 
be quite a big rewrite.  Maybe worth doing, maybe not, I don't know.  For 
the time being the hack I have made does the trick.

  Maciej

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-23 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-19  5:35 [PATCH 00/44] RISC-V: Various if-conversion fixes and improvements Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-18 16:50 ` [PATCH 13/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branchless cases for FP cond-move operations Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-18 18:03   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  6:27     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:37   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:35 ` [PATCH 01/44] testsuite: Add cases for conditional-move and conditional-add operations Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:52   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-20 10:16     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-20 12:57       ` Richard Biener
2023-11-22  1:33         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:35 ` [PATCH 02/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add cases for integer SFB cond-move operations Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:53   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-19  5:35 ` [PATCH 03/44] RISC-V: Reorder comment on SFB patterns Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:53   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-19  5:36 ` [PATCH 04/44] RISC-V: Sanitise NEED_EQ_NE_P case with `riscv_emit_int_compare' Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:53   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-19  5:36 ` [PATCH 05/44] RISC-V: Fix `mode' usage in `riscv_expand_conditional_move' Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:54   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-19  5:36 ` [PATCH 06/44] RISC-V: Avoid repeated GET_MODE calls " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:55   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-19  5:36 ` [PATCH 07/44] RISC-V: Use `nullptr' " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:53   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-19  5:36 ` [PATCH 08/44] RISC-V: Simplify EQ vs NE selection " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:56   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-19  5:36 ` [PATCH 09/44] RISC-V: Rework branch costing model for if-conversion Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 18:52   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-23 18:34     ` Maciej W. Rozycki [this message]
2023-11-29  1:19       ` Jeff Law
2023-11-29 12:01         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:37 ` [PATCH 10/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branched cases for integer cond-move operations Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  6:44   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-19  5:37 ` [PATCH 11/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branchless " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  6:47   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-23 19:18     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:37 ` [PATCH 12/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branched cases for FP " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  6:48   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-19  5:38 ` [PATCH 14/44] RISC-V: Also invert the cond-move condition for GEU and LEU Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  6:50   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-19  5:38 ` [PATCH 15/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branched cases for GEU and LEU cond-move operations Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 17:42   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:38 ` [PATCH 16/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branchless " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  7:22   ` Kito Cheng
2023-11-19  5:38 ` [PATCH 17/44] RISC-V: Avoid extraneous EQ or NE operation in cond-move expansion Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 17:45   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:38 ` [PATCH 18/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branched cases for equality cond-move operations Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 17:45   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:39 ` [PATCH 19/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branchless " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 17:46   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:39 ` [PATCH 20/44] RISC-V: Also accept constants for T-Head cond-move comparison operands Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 17:48   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:39 ` [PATCH 21/44] RISC-V: Also accept constants for T-Head cond-move data input operands Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 17:50   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:40 ` [PATCH 22/44] RISC-V: Fold all the cond-move variants together Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 18:35   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:40 ` [PATCH 23/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branched cases for T-Head non-equality cond moves Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 17:54   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:40 ` [PATCH 24/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branchless " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 17:54   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:40 ` [PATCH 25/44] RISC-V: Implement `riscv_emit_unary' helper Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 17:54   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:40 ` [PATCH 26/44] RISC-V: Add `movMODEcc' implementation for generic targets Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 18:18   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-23 22:16     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:40 ` [PATCH 27/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branched cases for generic integer cond moves Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 18:18   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:41 ` [PATCH 28/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branchless " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 18:19   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:41 ` [PATCH 29/44] RISC-V: Add `addMODEcc' implementation for generic targets Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 18:23   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-23 22:36     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:41 ` [PATCH 30/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branched cases for generic integer cond adds Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 18:23   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:41 ` [PATCH 31/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branchless " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 18:25   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-23 22:48     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:42 ` [PATCH 32/44] RISC-V: Only use SUBREG if applicable in `riscv_expand_float_scc' Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 18:26   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:42 ` [PATCH 33/44] RISC-V: Also allow FP conditions in `riscv_expand_conditional_move' Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 18:30   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-23 22:55     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:42 ` [PATCH 34/44] RISC-V: Provide FP conditional-branch instructions for if-conversion Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 19:42   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-23 23:26     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:42 ` [PATCH 35/44] RISC-V: Avoid extraneous integer comparison for FP comparisons Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 19:44   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:42 ` [PATCH 36/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branched cases for generic FP cond moves Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 19:45   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:43 ` [PATCH 37/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branchless " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 19:46   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:43 ` [PATCH 38/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branched cases for generic FP cond adds Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 19:46   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:43 ` [PATCH 39/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branchless " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 19:47   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-19  5:43 ` [PATCH 40/44] RISC-V: Handle FP NE operator via inversion in cond-operation expansion Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19 19:51   ` Jeff Law
2023-11-22  1:37     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:43 ` [PATCH 41/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branched cases for FP NE cond-move operations Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:43 ` [PATCH 42/44] " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:44 ` [PATCH 43/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branched cases for FP NE cond-add operation Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:44 ` [PATCH 44/44] RISC-V/testsuite: Add branchless " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-11-19  5:52 ` [PATCH 00/44] RISC-V: Various if-conversion fixes and improvements Kito Cheng

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