From: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: luis.machado@arm.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] info breakpoints improvements
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 15:33:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0962c86e-a550-98c8-9683-ced7f29d911c@palves.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <835ylv57om.fsf@gnu.org>
On 2022-05-24 15:25, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 15:09:30 +0100
>> Cc: luis.machado@arm.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
>> From: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>
>>
>>> I don't understand why would that be lost. I'm not proposing to
>>> actually disable each location, I propose to _display_ them as
>>> disabled in that case.
>>
>> If you do that, then you're hiding information for no good reason, IMO.
>
> From my POV, it's the other way around: we will be showing the user
> the actual current behavior of that location.
>
>> It makes
>> it confusing, one would no longer be able to tell which locations would be enabled
>> once you re-enable the parent breakpoint. You'd make "enable 3.2" seem to have
>> no effect on a disabled breakpoint, as "info break" would still show the location
>> as disabled.
>
> Why is this an important use case?
> It sounds much more useful and
> frequent to first enable the whole breakpoint, and only then enable or
> disable some of its particular locations. As long as the breakpoint
> is disabled, the internal status of enabled/disabled of its location
> is not important at all.
It is important to be able to look at the breakpoint list and understand that
some locations will be re-enabled once you enable the breakpoint, and which
those are. We may want to present the enabled locations slightly differently
when the parent breakpoint is disabled, but I disagree with showing them as
disabled in the same way you would show them if the user had disabled them
explicitly.
I think we're going in circles now.
>
> This is a user-level command, not a "maint" command. So what is of
> utmost importance is how this will actually behave, not what the
> software's internal state is.
A locations enable/disable state is not internal state, it is user-visible
state that the user can control. I don't understand why you are bringing
up such an odd "maint" command argument.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-24 14:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-19 21:55 Pedro Alves
2022-05-19 21:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] Always show locations for breakpoints & show canonical location spec Pedro Alves
2022-05-20 6:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-23 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 " Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 13:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-25 19:32 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-26 12:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-26 14:04 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-26 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-26 15:10 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-26 15:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-26 19:29 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-26 19:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-26 20:40 ` Pedro Alves
2023-04-10 15:07 ` Andrew Burgess
2022-05-20 7:45 ` [PATCH " Metzger, Markus T
2022-05-23 17:05 ` Lancelot SIX
2022-05-19 21:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] Introduce "info breakpoints -hide-locations" Pedro Alves
2022-05-20 6:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-20 5:57 ` [PATCH 0/2] info breakpoints improvements Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-23 17:06 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 13:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 13:45 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 8:38 ` Luis Machado
2022-05-24 10:02 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 13:29 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 13:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 13:50 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 14:09 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 14:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 14:33 ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2022-05-24 14:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-05-24 14:17 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 19:49 ` [PATCH] Show enabled locations with disabled breakpoint parent as "y-" (Re: [PATCH 0/2] info breakpoints improvements) Pedro Alves
2022-05-25 13:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-25 19:19 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 14:26 ` [PATCH 0/2] info breakpoints improvements Eli Zaretskii
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