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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] Always show locations for breakpoints & show canonical location spec
Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 22:55:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83k0a8nk5t.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9f7b3fba-f260-7901-ece0-51f377839733@palves.net> (message from Pedro Alves on Thu, 26 May 2022 20:29:50 +0100)

> Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 20:29:50 +0100
> Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
> From: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>
> 
> I documented all this in the Location Specifications section.  I'll send v4 in a bit.
> 
> I did not go for "source locations", however.  I swear I am not trying to be
> difficult...  The issue is that as I tried to describe things, "source location" read
> awkwardly, and kind of a lie-ish.  Because, you can have usable resolved locations without
> sources, even if they are incomplete.  It depends on command if they are usable.  Instead, I
> noticed something.
> 
> Here:
> 
>   * List::                        Printing source lines
>  -* Specify Location::            How to specify code locations
>  +* Location Specifications::     How to specify code locations
>                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> And note what the intro paragraph of that node currently says:
> 
>   "Several GDB commands accept arguments that specify a location or locations of your program’s code."
> 
> Clearly the arguments specify something, and that something is ... "locations of your program’s code."
> 
> So I went with "code locations" instead.

I could agree with this, but note that you are contradicting yourself:
"code" can and is sometimes interpreted as "machine code", and thus
"code location" can be interpreted as "address", something you didn't
want.  By contrast, "source location" is unequivocally a source-level
concept, and reflects the fact that it refers to a certain line of
source code in a certain file.  Moreover, it follows the example of
that C++ page you yourself used as an argument.  Why now you deviate
from all that is a mystery for me.

But if you don't care about all these inconsistencies, "code location"
is fine with me, as it qualifies the overly-general "location" enough
to solve the potential ambiguity, which was what bothered me.

> Anyhow, you'll see in v4 in a bit.
> 
> I hope you will be happy with this one.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-26 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-19 21:55 [PATCH 0/2] info breakpoints improvements Pedro Alves
2022-05-19 21:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] Always show locations for breakpoints & show canonical location spec Pedro Alves
2022-05-20  6:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-23 17:04     ` [PATCH v2 " Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 13:06       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-25 19:32         ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-26 12:48           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-26 14:04             ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-26 15:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-26 15:10                 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-26 15:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-26 19:29                 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-26 19:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-05-26 20:40                     ` Pedro Alves
2023-04-10 15:07                   ` Andrew Burgess
2022-05-20  7:45   ` [PATCH " Metzger, Markus T
2022-05-23 17:05     ` Lancelot SIX
2022-05-19 21:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] Introduce "info breakpoints -hide-locations" Pedro Alves
2022-05-20  6:48   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-20  5:57 ` [PATCH 0/2] info breakpoints improvements Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-23 17:06   ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 13:14     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 13:45       ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24  8:38 ` Luis Machado
2022-05-24 10:02   ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 13:20     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 13:29       ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 13:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 13:50           ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 14:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 14:09               ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 14:25                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 14:33                   ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 14:11               ` Andreas Schwab
2022-05-24 14:17                 ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 19:49                   ` [PATCH] Show enabled locations with disabled breakpoint parent as "y-" (Re: [PATCH 0/2] info breakpoints improvements) Pedro Alves
2022-05-25 13:57                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-25 19:19                       ` Pedro Alves
2022-05-24 14:26                 ` [PATCH 0/2] info breakpoints improvements Eli Zaretskii

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