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From: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>,
	Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>,
	Andrew Burgess <aburgess@redhat.com>,
	gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] aarch64: Add fallback if ARM_CC_FOR_TARGET not set (was: Re: [PATCH 5/5] gdb: native target invalid architecture detection)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2022 12:01:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5528f112-1674-0f37-7a80-a77db8d1a31c@FreeBSD.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <755636d3-b2b5-9eeb-1b23-6f9830e3edbb@palves.net>

On 6/8/22 4:20 AM, Pedro Alves wrote:
> On 2022-06-08 11:12, Pedro Alves wrote:
>> On 2022-06-08 08:54, Luis Machado wrote:
> 
>> A 64-bit program can always exec a 32-bit program.  Likewise the other way around.  That should be
>> debuggable with a single gdb.
>>
>> As you say, it's supported.  So, better test it routinely.  Not testing it doesn't gain us anything,
>> other than leading to bitrot, as has happened.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it would be possible to come up with a way to default ARM_CC_FOR_TARGET to
>>>> something that works for most people when testing aarch64, somehow.
>>> The problem is that a compiler is not enough to make things run fine. If you have an aarch64
>>> Ubuntu, for example, you'd need to add armhf as an architecture option and install both the
>>> compiler and the libraries (libc6:armhf mostly).
>>
>> That is not an issue specific to aarch64.  On x86-64, you need to install extra runtime
>> packages to test -m32 too, just the compiler isn't enough, and those packages aren't installed
>> by default.
>>
>>>
>>> Another problem is that not every processor/kernel supports running a 32-bit process in a
>>> 64-bit environment. This makes things more complicated.
>>>
>>
>> Why "more complicated"?  If you're worried about FAILs in the testsuite, then we can e.g. make it run
>> the 32-bit program once outside gdb to check that running 32-bits works.  If that fails, then
>> we don't run the test.  Seems simple, not complicated.
> 
> Here's a new version of the patch, doing that.  This version also moves the ARM_CC_FOR_TARGET fallback
> discovery to lib/gdb.exp so it can be used by gdb.multi/multi-arch-exec.exp as well.  I've now tested
> this on gcc80 on the GCC compile farm (an aarch64 ubuntu 18.04 machine), and confirmed that it works.  As in,
> we pick the right compiler (turns out it is arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc, the third fallback compiler, so the try-to-run
> code is exercised).  Of course, the testcases actually FAIL, due to 32-bit support bitrot in gdb itself.
> 
>  From 689671e40f88f1bf29af2433c7b6c7662c8f38c6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 20:11:32 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH] aarch64: Add fallback if ARM_CC_FOR_TARGET not set
> 
> On Aarch64, you can set ARM_CC_FOR_TARGET to point to the 32-bit
> compiler to use when testing gdb.multi/multi-arch.exp and
> gdb.multi/multi-arch-exec.exp.  If you don't set it, then those
> testcases don't run.
> 
> I guess that approximately nobody remembers to set ARM_CC_FOR_TARGET.
> 
> This commit adds a fallback.  If ARM_CC_FOR_TARGET is not set, and
> testing for Linux, try arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc,
> arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc, arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc as 32-bit
> compilers, making sure that the produced executable runs on the target
> machine before claiming that the compiler produces useful executables.

Note that if the target compiler is clang, it will probably already
support 32-bit ARM via a -target option.  Not sure if you want to try
to handle that case here as well?

The other wrinkle perhaps is that just because you have a capable
compiler around may not mean that you have 32-bit libraries available
to link against?  I'm not sure if the compilers you list in your patch
ensure that you have an ARM libc around as well via dependencies.

-- 
John Baldwin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-08 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-31 14:30 [PATCH 0/5] Handle trying to use a native target with the wrong binary Andrew Burgess
2022-05-31 14:30 ` [PATCH 1/5] gdb/arm: move fetch of arm_gdbarch_tdep to a more inner scope Andrew Burgess
2022-06-01  7:58   ` Luis Machado
2022-05-31 14:30 ` [PATCH 2/5] gdb/mips: rewrite show_mask_address Andrew Burgess
2022-05-31 14:30 ` [PATCH 3/5] gdb: move the type cast into gdbarch_tdep Andrew Burgess
2022-06-01  8:01   ` Luis Machado
2022-05-31 14:30 ` [PATCH 4/5] gdb: ensure the cast in gdbarch_tdep is valid Andrew Burgess
2022-05-31 16:04   ` John Baldwin
2022-05-31 17:22     ` Andrew Burgess
2022-05-31 14:30 ` [PATCH 5/5] gdb: native target invalid architecture detection Andrew Burgess
2022-05-31 16:08   ` John Baldwin
2022-05-31 16:51     ` Andrew Burgess
2022-06-01  8:25       ` Luis Machado
2022-06-01 21:06         ` John Baldwin
2022-06-01 21:21           ` Christophe Lyon
2022-06-02 14:56             ` John Baldwin
2022-06-06 14:38         ` Andrew Burgess
2022-06-06 17:48           ` Andrew Burgess
2022-06-07 11:03             ` Luis Machado
2022-06-07 18:42               ` Pedro Alves
2022-06-07 20:15                 ` Pedro Alves
2022-06-08  8:18                   ` Luis Machado
2022-06-08 10:17                     ` Pedro Alves
2022-06-08  7:54                 ` Luis Machado
2022-06-08 10:12                   ` Pedro Alves
2022-06-08 11:20                     ` [PATCH v2] aarch64: Add fallback if ARM_CC_FOR_TARGET not set (was: Re: [PATCH 5/5] gdb: native target invalid architecture detection) Pedro Alves
2022-06-08 12:50                       ` Luis Machado
2022-06-08 13:23                         ` Pedro Alves
2022-06-08 13:38                       ` Andrew Burgess
2022-06-08 19:01                       ` John Baldwin [this message]
2022-06-08 21:48                         ` Pedro Alves
2022-06-09 16:31                           ` John Baldwin
2022-06-10 13:08 ` [PATCHv2 0/6] Handle trying to use a native target with the wrong binary Andrew Burgess
2022-06-10 13:08   ` [PATCHv2 1/6] gdb/arm: move fetch of arm_gdbarch_tdep to a more inner scope Andrew Burgess
2022-06-10 13:08   ` [PATCHv2 2/6] gdb/mips: rewrite show_mask_address Andrew Burgess
2022-06-10 13:08   ` [PATCHv2 3/6] gdb/arm: avoid undefined behaviour in arm_frame_is_thumb Andrew Burgess
2022-06-10 15:21     ` Luis Machado
2022-06-10 15:49       ` Andrew Burgess
2022-06-10 16:29         ` Luis Machado
2022-06-10 13:08   ` [PATCHv2 4/6] gdb: move the type cast into gdbarch_tdep Andrew Burgess
2022-06-10 16:35     ` Luis Machado
2022-06-10 13:08   ` [PATCHv2 5/6] gdb: ensure the cast in gdbarch_tdep is valid Andrew Burgess
2022-06-10 13:08   ` [PATCHv2 6/6] gdb: native target invalid architecture detection Andrew Burgess
2022-06-10 16:20     ` John Baldwin
2022-06-10 16:31     ` Luis Machado
2022-06-13 16:15   ` [PATCHv3 0/6] Handle trying to use a native target with the wrong binary Andrew Burgess
2022-06-13 16:15     ` [PATCHv3 1/6] gdb/arm: move fetch of arm_gdbarch_tdep to a more inner scope Andrew Burgess
2022-06-13 16:15     ` [PATCHv3 2/6] gdb/mips: rewrite show_mask_address Andrew Burgess
2022-06-13 16:15     ` [PATCHv3 3/6] gdb: select suitable thread for gdbarch_adjust_breakpoint_address Andrew Burgess
2022-06-14  9:45       ` Luis Machado
2022-06-14 14:05         ` Andrew Burgess
2022-06-24 16:58       ` Pedro Alves
2022-06-13 16:15     ` [PATCHv3 4/6] gdb: move the type cast into gdbarch_tdep Andrew Burgess
2022-06-13 16:15     ` [PATCHv3 5/6] gdb: ensure the cast in gdbarch_tdep is valid Andrew Burgess
2022-06-24 18:15       ` Pedro Alves
2022-06-13 16:15     ` [PATCHv3 6/6] gdb: native target invalid architecture detection Andrew Burgess
2022-06-24 19:23       ` Pedro Alves
2022-06-27 16:27         ` Andrew Burgess
2022-06-27 21:38           ` Pedro Alves
2022-06-28 10:37             ` Andrew Burgess
2022-06-28 12:42               ` [PATCH v2] gdb+gdbserver/Linux: avoid reading registers while going through shell (was: Re: [PATCHv3 6/6] gdb: native target invalid architecture detection) Pedro Alves
2022-06-28 14:21                 ` Andrew Burgess
2022-06-29 15:17                 ` Simon Marchi
2022-06-29 16:22                   ` [PATCH] Fix GDBserver regression due to change to avoid reading shell registers Pedro Alves
2022-06-29 16:38                     ` Simon Marchi
2022-06-30  9:33             ` [PATCHv3 6/6] gdb: native target invalid architecture detection Andrew Burgess
2022-06-30 11:44               ` Pedro Alves
2022-07-11 10:47                 ` Andrew Burgess
2022-06-24 10:15     ` [PATCHv3 0/6] Handle trying to use a native target with the wrong binary Andrew Burgess
2022-06-28 14:28     ` [PATCHv4 0/6] Detect invalid casts of gdbarch_tdep structures Andrew Burgess
2022-06-28 14:28       ` [PATCHv4 1/6] gdb/arm: move fetch of arm_gdbarch_tdep to a more inner scope Andrew Burgess
2022-06-28 14:28       ` [PATCHv4 2/6] gdb/mips: rewrite show_mask_address Andrew Burgess
2022-06-28 14:28       ` [PATCHv4 3/6] gdb: select suitable thread for gdbarch_adjust_breakpoint_address Andrew Burgess
2022-06-28 14:28       ` [PATCHv4 4/6] gdb: move the type cast into gdbarch_tdep Andrew Burgess
2022-06-28 14:28       ` [PATCHv4 5/6] gdbsupport: add checked_static_cast Andrew Burgess
2022-06-28 14:28       ` [PATCHv4 6/6] gdb: ensure the cast in gdbarch_tdep is valid Andrew Burgess
2022-07-11 10:46       ` [PATCHv4 0/6] Detect invalid casts of gdbarch_tdep structures Andrew Burgess
2022-07-21 18:21         ` Andrew Burgess
2022-07-22  0:50           ` Luis Machado
2022-07-23  0:02             ` [PATCH] Rename gdbarch_tdep template function to gdbarch_tdep_cast for g++ 4.8 Mark Wielaard
2022-07-25 11:19               ` Andrew Burgess
2022-07-25 11:27                 ` Mark Wielaard
2022-07-26 11:05                   ` Andrew Burgess

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