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From: Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>
To: "Joseph S. Myers" <jsm28@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: Zack Weinberg <zack@codesourcery.com>,
	Joe Buck <jbuck@synopsys.com>, DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com>,
	aoliva@redhat.com, cgf@redhat.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org,
	binutils@gcc.gnu.org, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Updating to Autoconf 2.5x
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:57:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1055260613.9414.38.camel@doubledemon.codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0306101022100.6442@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk>

On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 02:25, Joseph S. Myers wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2003, Mark Mitchell wrote:
> 
> > [However, I do think it's odd that the FSF worked so hard to get GCC to
> > come from gcc.gnu.org, but binutils and lots of other GNU stuff still
> > comes from sources.redhat.com.]
> 
> But the binutils@gcc.gnu.org alias for the list was set up on 18 Jun 2001
> in response to a request from RMS.  (I don't know about GDB, or about the
> FSF position on which domain name is used in documentation.  overseers
> likewise has a list alias @gcc.gnu.org.)

That's all well and good, but the basic point certainly remains: we've
worked very hard to make GCC appear to come entirely from a machine
named gcc.gnu.org, and similar work has not been done for GDB, binutils,
glibc, etc.  Red Hat domain names and logos appear frequently on those
web pages.

Frankly, I don't think this matters nearly as much as it might have in
the past; the world has gotten a lot more savvy about GNU software and
people don't seem to get confused about some company "owning" it nearly
as often.

I don't object to a policy that gnu.org domains ought to be used even
for transient GCC mailing lists.  But then we should be actively trying
to set up {binutils,gdb,glibc}.gnu.org and/or sources.gnu.org; the use
of sources.redhat.com for those projects creates much more potential for
confusion.  A first step would be do separate the sources.redhat.com
site into a site for GNU project programs and non-GNU project programs;
GDB would go on the first site, while Cygwin and Red Boot would go on
the other.

-- 
Mark Mitchell
CodeSourcery, LLC
mark@codesourcery.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-06-10 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-09 20:32 Zack Weinberg
2003-06-09 21:05 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-06-09 21:09   ` Christopher Faylor
2003-06-09 22:58     ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-06-09 23:06       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-06-09 23:38       ` Joe Buck
2003-06-09 23:48         ` DJ Delorie
2003-06-10  0:33           ` Joe Buck
2003-06-10  4:40             ` Zack Weinberg
2003-06-10  6:42               ` Mark Mitchell
2003-06-10  9:25                 ` Joseph S. Myers
2003-06-10 14:24                   ` Christopher Faylor
2003-06-10 15:57                   ` Mark Mitchell [this message]
2003-06-10 16:40                     ` Christopher Faylor
2003-06-12  4:16                       ` Red Hat logos on FSF web pages (was Re: Updating to Autoconf 2.5x) Christopher Faylor
2003-06-10 17:40                     ` Updating to Autoconf 2.5x Andrew Cagney
2003-06-10 13:48                 ` Kaveh R. Ghazi
2003-06-10 14:23                 ` Christopher Faylor
2003-06-10 14:30                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-06-10 15:44                 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-06-10 16:03                   ` Mark Mitchell
2003-06-10 17:47                   ` Joe Buck
2003-06-09 23:58         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-06-10  0:50         ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-06-10  0:55           ` DJ Delorie
2003-06-10  2:58           ` Christopher Faylor
2003-06-10  3:43             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2003-06-10  2:37         ` Christopher Faylor, Christopher Faylor
2003-06-09 21:15   ` DJ Delorie
2003-06-09 23:01   ` Zack Weinberg

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