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From: Tuomo Keskitalo <Tuomo.Keskitalo@iki.fi>
To: James Bergstra <bergstrj@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Gerard Jungman <jungman@lanl.gov>,
	 GSL Discuss Mailing List <gsl-discuss@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: new double precision data structure?
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:48:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AC0DAA6.5030102@iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f1eaee30909270934v7ae7f4a6u6cbf9d16b099978b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

thanks, good comments!

On 09/27/2009 07:34 PM, James Bergstra wrote:

> Firstly, the ndarray untyped.  The data is in a void * pointer or a
> char * pointer or something, and there is an extra enum-valued field
> that indicates what sort of elements make up the data.  For example, 0
> might mean int8, 1 might mean uint8, 2 might mean int32, 10 might mean
> float32, 11 float64, 12 complex64, and so on.  There is support for

This implies that GSL should support other elementary types than double. 
What do people think about this?

I rather like the notion. Maybe we can't provide all GSL functionality 
to all those data types, but it would certainly be nice to have this 
option on the background, even if double precision would be the only one 
fully supported.

> Secondly, there is no notion of a 'layout' in the ndarray, so I wonder
> if it is necessary here?  When you explicitly store the strides for
> traversing the tensor in each dimension... what is left for the
> 'layout' to specify?

The fact whether e.g. matrix data is stored in row or column major 
format. For example, if m is 2*2 matrix stored in d, and if d[0] is the 
(1,1) cell in matrix, then d[1] might be (2,1) (=column rajor storage, I 
think) or (1,2) (=row major storage), depending on your programming 
language/library.

> Thirdly, the dimensions are logical things, not physical ones.  So
> perhaps they belong in the view rather than the base block?  I think
> the simple { size_t n_allocated; char * buf } structure is sufficient
> for the base block.

I was thinking that the actual dimensions would be stored in the block, 
and the view would define an allowed subspace. For example, a view for a 
matrix could be a matrix or a vector. So, the geometry of block level 
would be frozen, and the views would provide alternative ways to access 
the data in it in different geometries. Is this too restrictive?

> The biggest advantage of moving the dimensions from the base_block to
> the view that it allows in-place reshaping and transposing of views,
> which would be awkward otherwise.

I did not get this, could you please give an example? If there is a 
problem, then dimensions can go to the view as you suggest.

-- 
Tuomo.Keskitalo@iki.fi
http://iki.fi/tuomo.keskitalo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-28 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-30 17:07 ode-initval implicit solvers and development Tuomo Keskitalo
2008-10-01 18:29 ` Brian Gough
2008-10-09 13:22 ` Brian Gough
2008-11-02 17:35 ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2008-11-03 18:09   ` Brian Gough
2009-01-24 11:52     ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-02-01 17:01       ` Brian Gough
2009-02-02 17:05         ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-03-01 14:37           ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-03-03 16:34             ` Brian Gough
2009-03-05 19:47               ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-03-05 19:54                 ` Heikki Orsila
2009-03-06 20:03                 ` Brian Gough
2009-04-05 12:28             ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-05-01 14:05             ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-05-04 11:23               ` Brian Gough
2009-05-08 10:51               ` Brian Gough
2009-08-06 13:51                 ` GSL 2.0 roadmap Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-08-21 20:42                   ` Brian Gough
2009-08-27 11:42                     ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-08-27 12:51                       ` Robert G. Brown
2009-08-28 13:57                         ` Jordi Burguet Castell
2009-08-27 17:13                           ` Robert G. Brown
2009-08-28 13:58                       ` Brian Gough
2009-08-27 23:10                     ` Gerard Jungman
2009-08-27 23:13                       ` GSL 2.0 roadmap (one man's view) Gerard Jungman
2009-08-28 13:58                         ` Brian Gough
2009-09-16  0:43                           ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-03 19:37                         ` Brian Gough
2009-09-16  0:44                           ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-07 15:10                         ` Brian Gough
2009-09-16  0:44                           ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-17 20:12                             ` Brian Gough
     [not found]                           ` <645d17210909090818u474f32f0q19a6334578b9f02c@mail.gmail.com>
2009-09-17 19:14                             ` Brian Gough
2009-09-07 15:10                         ` Brian Gough
2009-09-16  0:46                           ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-16  2:48                             ` Robert G. Brown
2009-09-17 19:14                             ` Brian Gough
2009-09-07 15:10                         ` Brian Gough
2009-09-16  0:47                           ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-27  8:03                             ` new double precision data structure? Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-09-28  8:44                               ` James Bergstra
2009-09-28 15:48                                 ` Tuomo Keskitalo [this message]
2009-10-16 13:59                                   ` Brian Gough
2009-09-29 18:38                               ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-07 15:10                         ` GSL 2.0 roadmap (one man's view) Brian Gough
2009-09-16  0:46                           ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-17 20:12                             ` Brian Gough
2009-09-07 15:10                         ` Brian Gough
2009-09-16  0:45                           ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-20  9:36                             ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-09-20 13:23                               ` Robert G. Brown
2009-09-20 15:31                                 ` Rhys Ulerich
2009-09-20 16:19                                   ` Robert G. Brown
2009-09-21 15:13                                   ` Brian Gough
2009-09-20 15:08                               ` Rhys Ulerich
2009-09-21 12:08                               ` Brian Gough
2009-09-07 15:10                         ` Brian Gough
2009-09-07 15:34                           ` Rhys Ulerich
2009-09-07 18:21                             ` Robert G. Brown
2009-09-16  0:47                           ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-18  3:51                             ` column-major Z F
2009-09-21 12:08                               ` column-major Brian Gough
2009-08-28 13:58                     ` GSL 2.0 roadmap Brian Gough

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