From: Rhys Ulerich <rhys.ulerich@gmail.com>
To: gsl-discuss@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: GSL 2.0 roadmap (one man's view)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:31:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4a00655d0909200830j76902792pf5a9698611743f32@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0909200907570.8848@lilith>
> a) the actual data in any tensor form be stored in a single contiguous
> vector whose address is available to the user and not hidden inside an
> opaque data object;
> b) the tensor itself be a **...*pointer, cast to the desired
> type, packed with the offsets into this vector
Given both (a) and (b) everyone pays storage overhead for indexing
twice. The first time is to store the leading dimensions for (a)-like
access, and the second time is to store the pointers-to-pointers for
(b)-like access.
Since (a) already exists today, if you want (b) it can be provided as
a view. Your cost will be storage overhead for pointers-to-pointers,
dereferencing delay, and potential cache misses if the
pointers-to-pointers for (b)-like access are far away from (a)'s data.
I think those that want (b) should have a view that accomplishes it,
but that people using (a) only shouldn't pay for the overhead. I
believe these are the reasons that both the C and Fortran numerics
communities pretty consistently stay towards (a)-like storage under
the covers.
Also, to be fair to the current design, gsl_matrix and gsl_vector are
structs, but they certainly aren't opaque.
- Rhys
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-20 15:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-30 17:07 ode-initval implicit solvers and development Tuomo Keskitalo
2008-10-01 18:29 ` Brian Gough
2008-10-09 13:22 ` Brian Gough
2008-11-02 17:35 ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2008-11-03 18:09 ` Brian Gough
2009-01-24 11:52 ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-02-01 17:01 ` Brian Gough
2009-02-02 17:05 ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-03-01 14:37 ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-03-03 16:34 ` Brian Gough
2009-03-05 19:47 ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-03-05 19:54 ` Heikki Orsila
2009-03-06 20:03 ` Brian Gough
2009-04-05 12:28 ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-05-01 14:05 ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-05-04 11:23 ` Brian Gough
2009-05-08 10:51 ` Brian Gough
2009-08-06 13:51 ` GSL 2.0 roadmap Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-08-21 20:42 ` Brian Gough
2009-08-27 11:42 ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-08-27 12:51 ` Robert G. Brown
2009-08-28 13:57 ` Jordi Burguet Castell
2009-08-27 17:13 ` Robert G. Brown
2009-08-28 13:58 ` Brian Gough
2009-08-27 23:10 ` Gerard Jungman
2009-08-27 23:13 ` GSL 2.0 roadmap (one man's view) Gerard Jungman
2009-08-28 13:58 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-16 0:43 ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-03 19:37 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-16 0:44 ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-07 15:10 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-16 0:45 ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-20 9:36 ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-09-20 13:23 ` Robert G. Brown
2009-09-20 15:31 ` Rhys Ulerich [this message]
2009-09-20 16:19 ` Robert G. Brown
2009-09-21 15:13 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-20 15:08 ` Rhys Ulerich
2009-09-21 12:08 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-07 15:10 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-07 15:34 ` Rhys Ulerich
2009-09-07 18:21 ` Robert G. Brown
2009-09-16 0:47 ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-18 3:51 ` column-major Z F
2009-09-21 12:08 ` column-major Brian Gough
2009-09-07 15:10 ` GSL 2.0 roadmap (one man's view) Brian Gough
2009-09-16 0:44 ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-17 20:12 ` Brian Gough
[not found] ` <645d17210909090818u474f32f0q19a6334578b9f02c@mail.gmail.com>
2009-09-17 19:14 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-07 15:10 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-16 0:46 ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-17 20:12 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-07 15:10 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-16 0:46 ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-16 2:48 ` Robert G. Brown
2009-09-17 19:14 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-07 15:10 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-16 0:47 ` Gerard Jungman
2009-09-27 8:03 ` new double precision data structure? Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-09-28 8:44 ` James Bergstra
2009-09-28 15:48 ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2009-10-16 13:59 ` Brian Gough
2009-09-29 18:38 ` Gerard Jungman
2009-08-28 13:58 ` GSL 2.0 roadmap Brian Gough
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