From: Egor Kobylkin <egor@kobylkin.com>
To: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, libc-locales@sourceware.org,
"Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@altlinux.org>,
Marko Myllynen <myllynen@redhat.com>,
mfabian@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10] Locales: Cyrillic -> ASCII transliteration table [BZ #2872]
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2018 21:51:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9ca708e-f2af-14f3-9871-df213580882d@kobylkin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1718190635.706992.1544225756803@poczta.nazwa.pl>
Rafal, Dmitry, Marko, Mike
On 08.12.18 00:35, Rafal Luzynski wrote:
> 19.11.2018 12:10 Egor Kobylkin <egor@kobylkin.com> wrote:
>>
>> Changelog v10: * Removed ISO 9.1995 GOST 7.79-2000 System A
>> (transliteration to Latin with diacritics) as conflicting with
>> System B within glibc mechanics and not solving BZ #2872
>
> I'm in favor of implementing System A and dropping System B instead.
The BZ #2872 bug name is explicitly "Transliteration Cyrillic -> ASCII
fails". The ISO 9 System A does not map to ASCII so it is not a solution
to BZ #2872 at all.
I was scratching my head as to how can we avoid the explosion of the
scope for this patch. And then it appeared to me that it was wrong to
target all the present locales for the ASCII translit. This seems to be
the root cause for this prolonged A vs. B discussions. The proper target
for my table is actually the C locale translit file
(locale/C-translit.h.in). I will submit a proper patch shortly.
If anyone wants to keep working on the implementation of the Latin
Diacritics transliteration of the Cyrillic letters (System A) you are
welcome to use the tables I have submitted before (v9). That would be a
new feature for glibc as per my understanding. Let's just make super
clear the distinction of the System A (Latin with Diacritics, non-ASCII)
to the ASCII translit as mentioned in BZ #2872 (System B).
My focus is super sharp on helping with Cyrillic -> ASCII translit
availability for a default installation with glibc.
Hope this helps,
Egor
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[not found] <41532e13-a63d-5df1-ab37-05eb4d6c8d0a@kobylkin.com>
[not found] ` <20180412224352.GB2911@altlinux.org>
2018-07-17 19:34 ` SUBJECT: [PATCH] " Egor Kobylkin
2018-07-17 19:41 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-07-17 19:50 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-07-17 19:59 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-08-06 19:00 ` [PATCH] Locales: Cyrillic -> ASCII transliteration table [BZ #2872] re-submission for 2.29 Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-03 8:28 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-03 9:20 ` Keld Simonsen
2018-10-03 9:32 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-05 8:44 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-10-05 9:20 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-10-05 10:37 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-08 22:05 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-10-08 22:52 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-09 21:43 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-10-09 16:10 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-10-09 16:22 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-09 16:49 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-10-09 22:09 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-10-10 11:21 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-10-11 10:10 ` Marko Myllynen
[not found] ` <deacdf31-d0bb-a92d-1de3-934d6b4cb158@kobylkin.com>
2018-10-05 11:54 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-10-05 12:01 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-05 12:21 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-10-05 20:47 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-08 12:41 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-10-08 22:23 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-10-08 23:36 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-09 13:18 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-09 18:34 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-09 22:18 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-10-09 22:40 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-09 22:43 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-10 11:23 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-10-10 12:20 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-10 12:34 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-10-10 22:29 ` [PATCH] Locales: Cyrillic -> ASCII transliteration table [BZ #2872] v2 Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-11 10:00 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-10-11 11:05 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-10-11 13:10 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-10-11 13:51 ` Volodymyr Lisivka
2018-10-11 14:59 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-11 21:31 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-11 15:05 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-11 15:45 ` [PATCH] Locales: Cyrillic -> ASCII transliteration table [BZ #2872] v3 Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-11 21:33 ` [PATCH] Locales: Cyrillic -> ASCII transliteration table [BZ #2872] v4 Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-12 14:06 ` [PATCH v5] Locales: Cyrillic -> ASCII transliteration table [BZ #2872] Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-13 1:01 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-10-13 16:58 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-15 11:05 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-10-15 11:55 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-10-23 23:08 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-10-17 14:17 ` [PATCH v6] " Egor Kobylkin
2018-11-01 22:52 ` [PATCH v7] " Egor Kobylkin
2018-11-02 0:01 ` [PATCH v8] " Egor Kobylkin
2018-11-02 22:22 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-11-02 23:27 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-11-14 21:25 ` [PATCH v9] " Egor Kobylkin
2018-11-16 22:17 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-11-17 18:35 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-11-19 7:14 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-11-19 9:22 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-11-19 19:36 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-12-01 22:09 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-12-01 22:53 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-12-03 22:19 ` Egor Kobylkin
[not found] ` <1361059722.707244.1544231740358@poczta.nazwa.pl>
2018-12-10 21:20 ` Marko Myllynen
2018-12-19 22:26 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-12-19 22:48 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-12-19 23:51 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-11-19 11:11 ` [PATCH v10] " Egor Kobylkin
2018-12-07 23:35 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-12-08 21:51 ` Egor Kobylkin [this message]
2018-12-19 22:42 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-12-19 23:02 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-12-20 0:06 ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-12-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v11] Locales: Cyrillic -> ASCII transliteration " Egor Kobylkin
2018-12-19 23:16 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-12-26 10:07 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-12-26 12:14 ` Egor Kobylkin
2018-12-27 1:31 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-12-27 11:31 ` Rafal Luzynski
2019-01-02 18:39 ` [PATCH v12] " Egor Kobylkin
2019-01-05 14:36 ` Rafal Luzynski
2019-01-05 21:13 ` Egor Kobylkin
2019-01-07 20:37 ` Marko Myllynen
2019-01-09 0:46 ` Egor Kobylkin
2019-01-09 20:03 ` Marko Myllynen
2019-02-04 7:14 ` [PATCH v12] Locales: Cyrillic -> ASCII transliteration [BZ #2872] ping for 2.30 Egor Kobylkin
2019-02-14 16:48 ` Marko Myllynen
2019-03-04 22:12 ` Egor Kobylkin
2019-03-11 13:59 ` PING " Egor Kobylkin
2019-03-14 19:49 ` Egor Kobylkin
2019-04-19 22:24 ` Rafal Luzynski
[not found] ` <5ELixS9SQ0DW4mlvswp96ASpLobBabU9KQ6zOTH-Udrb34mABhcqiPERpBZfPWZ9F77s8XNmiLIAq9UWu0AjLFFdjOz_FZVU5_xF-SiQkrw=@kobylkin.com>
2019-04-27 2:51 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2019-04-27 7:34 ` Diego (Egor) Kobylkin
2019-04-09 1:04 ` [PATCH v12] Locales: Cyrillic -> ASCII transliteration [BZ #2872] Carlos O'Donell
2019-03-19 10:39 ` ping " Egor Kobylkin
2019-03-28 16:20 ` [PING^4][PATCH " Marko Myllynen
2019-04-04 19:44 ` [PING^5][PATCH " Egor Kobylkin
2019-04-06 1:36 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2019-04-16 7:15 ` [PING^6][PATCH " Marko Myllynen
2019-04-16 13:17 ` Carlos O'Donell
2019-04-16 17:07 ` Egor Kobylkin
2019-04-16 17:58 ` Carlos O'Donell
2019-04-16 18:41 ` Egor Kobylkin
2019-04-16 19:06 ` Carlos O'Donell
2019-05-10 12:19 ` Marko Myllynen
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