* [Bug localedata/14522] fy_DE locale query
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Bug #: 14522
Summary: fy_DE locale query
Product: glibc
Version: 2.15
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
Component: localedata
AssignedTo: unassigned@sourceware.org
ReportedBy: cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com
CC: libc-locales@sources.redhat.com
Classification: Unclassified
Something seems amiss with the description in fy_DE locale.
title "Sater Frisian and North Frisian Locale for Germany"
However
West Frisian language is ISO 639-1 lang-fy (and ISO 639-2 lang-fry)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Frisian_language
Saterland (or Eastern) Frisian language is ISO 639-2 lang-frs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saterland_Frisian_language
North Frisian language is ISO 639-2 lang-frr
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Frisian_language
It does not appear to make sense to use ISO 639-1 lang-fy unless the language
is West Frisian, but the description in the fy_DE locale seems to state
otherwise.
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--- Comment #1 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
CLDR has only data for fy (Western Frisian) and frr (Northern Frisian):
mfabian@hathi:/local/mfabian/src/cldr/common/main (main)
$ grep Frisian en.xml
<language type="frr">Northern Frisian</language>
<language type="frs">Eastern Frisian</language>
<language type="fy">Western Frisian</language>
<language type="stq">Saterland Frisian</language>
mfabian@hathi:/local/mfabian/src/cldr/common/main (main)
$ ll frr* frs* fy* stq*
ls: cannot access 'frs*': No such file or directory
ls: cannot access 'stq*': No such file or directory
-rw-r--r--. 1 mfabian mfabian 465 Feb 20 2023 frr_DE.xml
-rw-r--r--. 1 mfabian mfabian 287858 Nov 15 16:06 frr.xml
-rw-r--r--. 1 mfabian mfabian 464 Feb 20 2023 fy_NL.xml
-rw-r--r--. 1 mfabian mfabian 355511 Nov 15 16:06 fy.xml
mfabian@hathi:/local/mfabian/src/cldr/common/main (main)
$ grep -A8 '<dayWidth type="wide">' frr.xml
<dayWidth type="wide">
<day type="sun"
draft="unconfirmed">Söndai</day>
<day type="mon"
draft="unconfirmed">Mundai</day>
<day type="tue"
draft="unconfirmed">Teisdai</day>
<day type="wed"
draft="unconfirmed">Weedensdai</day>
<day type="thu"
draft="unconfirmed">Tüürsdai</day>
<day type="fri"
draft="unconfirmed">Freidai</day>
<day type="sat"
draft="unconfirmed">Saninj</day>
</dayWidth>
...
mfabian@hathi:/local/mfabian/src/cldr/common/main (main)
$ grep -A8 '<dayWidth type="wide">' fy.xml
<dayWidth type="wide">
<day
type="sun">snein</day>
<day
type="mon">moandei</day>
<day
type="tue">tiisdei</day>
<day
type="wed">woansdei</day>
<day
type="thu">tongersdei</day>
<day
type="fri">freed</day>
<day
type="sat">sneon</day>
</dayWidth>
...
mfabian@hathi:/local/mfabian/src/cldr/common/main (main)
$
The weekday names in the glibc fy_NL locale agree with "Western Frisian" in
CLDR (Apart from capitalization of the first letter).
The weekday names in the glibc fy_DE locale are different and do *not* agree
with the "Northern Frisian" in CLDR.
It might be some variant of Northern Frisan, no idea.
I think the best I can do is to make the fy_DE file "Western Frisian" as well.
If somebody wants a "Northern Frisian" locale, frr_DE should be added.
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--- Comment #2 from Sourceware Commits <cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
The master branch has been updated by Mike Fabian <mfabian@sourceware.org>:
https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=glibc.git;h=b31a01909cfe24adc53e96b418612ae617ef72ab
commit b31a01909cfe24adc53e96b418612ae617ef72ab
Author: Mike FABIAN <mfabian@redhat.com>
Date: Wed Jan 3 20:55:44 2024 +0100
localedata: fy_DE: make this "Western Frisian" to agree with the language
code "fy"
Resolves: BZ # 14522
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Fixed in glibc master.
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--- Comment #4 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
I suspect the restriction of fy to Western Frisian is more recent than the
locale. A culturally German Frisian locale wouldn't be for Western Frisian, I
think.
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--- Comment #5 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
(In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #4)
> I suspect the restriction of fy to Western Frisian is more recent than the
> locale. A culturally German Frisian locale wouldn't be for Western Frisian,
> I think.
Yes, I guess as well that a culturally German Frisian locale wouldn’t be for
Western Frisian, but then it wouldn’t have the language code 'fy' either, so we
should probably create a new one like frr_DE maybe. I could not find the day
and month names in the old fy_DE locale anywhere, it does not seem to have been
Sater Frisian and also not one of the North Frisian dialects I found. Maybe
some other dialect of North Frisian.
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