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From: Jim Kingdon <kingdon@panix.com>
To: mcdonald@phy.cmich.edu
Cc: xconq7@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: New Proposed Xconq Web Site Online
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:59:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200409301655.i8UGt6F04972@panix5.panix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0409291350130.21436-100000@leon.phy.cmich.edu> (message from Eric McDonald on Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:08:01 -0400 (EDT))

> Esperanto appears to be a declined and conjugated language, like
> Latin.

Only a little bit.  There are only 2 cases (subject and object),
compared with 6 (I think) for Latin, 4 for German.

And there are only 3 tenses (past, present, future), compared with
many more for romance languages.

There is no gramatical gender.

> The "j" endings are interesting; perhaps borrowed from a Slavic
> language?

Not sure where that comes from, but I have a vague recollection of
other languages which form plurals by adding "y" (or "j", but it is
the sound that would be spelled "y" in English).  Italian changes the
last vowel...

> The root "lud" is probably "game" as it is in Latin, though it appears
> to be used as a verb as well,

Yup.  Many roots can be used as multiple parts of speech by just
varying the ending.  Like English but more so.

> "Milit" is probably a root dealing with soldier or military; similar
> to Latin. "la" is probably "the". "kongreso" is a coming together, a
> congress, a gathering, most likely. "Diplomatio" -> "Diplomacy".

Yup.  In this context, "kongreso" means an Esperanto conference.

Here is the list of endings:

-a adjective
-o noun
-e adverb
-i verb (infinitive)
-is verb, past tense
-as verb, present tense
-os verb, future tense
-u verb, imperative
-j plural
-n accusative (object) case; can be combined with -a, -o, -j, etc.

> I guess I am going to have to drop in on some Esperanto 
> conversations; solving linguistic puzzles is fun.

There's always http://www.lernu.net/ (but that's only for people who
read manuals - the Real Hacker(TM) will want to skip right to the
grammar book written in Esperanto - http://purl.oclc.org/NET/pmeg )

> Now we will have to see if any Klingon speakers want 
> representation as well.

Klingon speakers do not *want* representation; Kling speakers *demand*
representation.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-30 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-28 21:34 Feneric Brown
2004-09-28 22:14 ` Elijah Meeks
2004-09-28 23:47 ` D. Cooper Stevenson
2004-09-29 15:00 ` Jim Kingdon
2004-09-29 18:16   ` Eric McDonald
2004-09-30 16:59     ` Jim Kingdon [this message]
2004-10-01  2:57       ` [Offtopic] EsperantoConq Eric McDonald
2004-09-29 18:24   ` New Proposed Xconq Web Site Online Eric McDonald
2004-09-30 17:07     ` Jim Kingdon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-06  2:02 Feneric Brown
2004-10-01 18:35 Feneric Brown
2004-10-02  2:01 ` Eric McDonald
2004-10-01 18:23 Feneric Brown
2004-10-01  5:40 Feneric Brown
2004-10-01  6:10 ` Jim Kingdon
2004-10-02  2:14   ` Eric McDonald
2004-10-02  2:51     ` mskala
2004-10-02  3:04       ` Eric McDonald
2004-10-03 17:48     ` Jim Kingdon
2004-10-03 18:36       ` Eric McDonald
2004-10-03 18:49         ` Jim Kingdon
2004-10-03 23:55           ` Eric McDonald
2004-10-01  8:07 ` Lincoln Peters
2004-10-01 18:07 ` Eric McDonald
2004-09-29 19:26 Feneric Brown
2004-09-30  0:36 ` Eric McDonald
2004-09-30 23:49 ` Jim Kingdon
2004-09-29 19:17 Eric W. Brown
2004-09-29  0:41 Eric W. Brown
2004-09-29 18:08 ` Jim Kingdon
2004-09-29  0:23 Feneric Brown
2004-09-27 18:44 D. Cooper Stevenson
2004-09-27 18:54 ` Elijah Meeks
2004-09-28  2:40   ` D. Cooper Stevenson
2004-09-28  3:25 ` Eric McDonald

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