* Is there, anywhere in the world, some place where ican rsync Cygin 32 bits ? @ 2023-05-29 22:06 akakima 2023-05-29 22:42 ` Brian Inglis 2023-05-30 12:16 ` Jon Turney 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: akakima @ 2023-05-29 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 60 bytes --] Does such a place exist (beside fruitbat) ? Thanks a lot. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Is there, anywhere in the world, some place where ican rsync Cygin 32 bits ? 2023-05-29 22:06 Is there, anywhere in the world, some place where ican rsync Cygin 32 bits ? akakima @ 2023-05-29 22:42 ` Brian Inglis 2023-05-30 12:21 ` Jon Turney 2023-05-30 12:16 ` Jon Turney 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Brian Inglis @ 2023-05-29 22:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin; +Cc: akakima On 2023-05-29 16:06, akakima via Cygwin wrote: > Does such a place exist (beside fruitbat) ? Appears the master and all mirrors have stub setup.ini and nothing else! Only private mirrors like fruitbat are likely to maintain history. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Is there, anywhere in the world, some place where ican rsync Cygin 32 bits ? 2023-05-29 22:42 ` Brian Inglis @ 2023-05-30 12:21 ` Jon Turney 2023-05-30 19:55 ` Brian Inglis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Jon Turney @ 2023-05-30 12:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Brian Inglis via Cygwin, The Cygwin Mailing List, akakima On 29/05/2023 23:42, Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote: > On 2023-05-29 16:06, akakima via Cygwin wrote: >> Does such a place exist (beside fruitbat) ? > > Appears the master and all mirrors have stub setup.ini and nothing else! > Only private mirrors like fruitbat are likely to maintain history. This answer is wrong is almost every particular. I went to a some effort to maintain an accessible archive of the last 32-bit cygwin (See [1]). Please don't spread misinformation. [1] https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-announce/2022-November/010810.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Is there, anywhere in the world, some place where ican rsync Cygin 32 bits ? 2023-05-30 12:21 ` Jon Turney @ 2023-05-30 19:55 ` Brian Inglis 2023-06-11 17:58 ` Jon Turney 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Brian Inglis @ 2023-05-30 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On 2023-05-30 06:21, Jon Turney via Cygwin wrote: > On 29/05/2023 23:42, Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote: >> On 2023-05-29 16:06, akakima via Cygwin wrote: >>> Does such a place exist (beside fruitbat) ? >> >> Appears the master and all mirrors have stub setup.ini and nothing else! >> Only private mirrors like fruitbat are likely to maintain history. > > This answer is wrong is almost every particular. Good - nothing like a definitely wrong statement in a post to bring out an illuminating correction in a reply! > I went to a some effort to maintain an accessible archive of the last 32-bit > cygwin (See [1]). > > Please don't spread misinformation. Both the OP and myself, and likely others, missed the alternative: I just went back and reread it a few times, and finally got the point; also in the Install FAQ - I just noticed it third time thru, after searching the page for "sourceware". > [1] https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-announce/2022-November/010810.html You totally buried the lede with the point: "The URL for any sourceware mirror[1], followed by cygwin-archive/20221123" because of too many levels of indirection about sourceware mirrors, lack of examples and emphases, overshadowed by the following URL and thanks; similarly in the install FAQ: "The URL for any sourceware mirror, followed by cygwin-archive/20221123". I've done this a lot myself, trying to be too terse whilst getting the point across, losing it in the wording, requiring rephrasing or restructuring, perhaps along the lines of: "To install the last cygwin version for x86, run setup using the options '--allow-unsupported-windows option --site circa_URL' e.g. > setup-x86 -allow-unsupported-windows --site circa_URL where circa_URL can be one of: * any complete sourceware mirror URL, which includes cygwin-archive, followed by the cygwin-archive mirror directory name and last x86 archive date cygwin-archive/20221123 e.g. https://mirrors.kernel.org/sourceware/cygwin-archive/20221123/ An incomplete list of sourceware mirrors is available at: https://sourceware.org/mirrors.html (Not all sourceware mirrors may carry the cygwin-archive mirror.) * the Cygwin time machine URL: http://ctm.crouchingtigerhiddenfruitbat.org/pub/cygwin/circa/2022/11/23/063457 Thanks to the Cygwin Time Machine for providing this archive." In the Install FAQ, perhaps: "32-bit: http://ctm.crouchingtigerhiddenfruitbat.org/pub/cygwin/circa/2022/11/23/063457 https://mirrors.kernel.org/sourceware/cygwin-archive/20221123/ or the URL for any complete sourceware mirror which includes cygwin-archive, followed by the mirror directory and last x86 archive date cygwin-archive/20221123" and/or perhaps include something like the suggested expansion at top below under the 32-bit note? -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Is there, anywhere in the world, some place where ican rsync Cygin 32 bits ? 2023-05-30 19:55 ` Brian Inglis @ 2023-06-11 17:58 ` Jon Turney 2023-06-15 16:37 ` Brian Inglis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Jon Turney @ 2023-06-11 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Brian Inglis via Cygwin, The Cygwin Mailing List On 30/05/2023 20:55, Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote: > On 2023-05-30 06:21, Jon Turney via Cygwin wrote: >> On 29/05/2023 23:42, Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote: >>> On 2023-05-29 16:06, akakima via Cygwin wrote: >>>> Does such a place exist (beside fruitbat) ? >>> >>> Appears the master and all mirrors have stub setup.ini and nothing else! >>> Only private mirrors like fruitbat are likely to maintain history. >> >> This answer is wrong is almost every particular. > > Good - nothing like a definitely wrong statement in a post to bring out > an illuminating correction in a reply! No, we're not going to play that game. Posting misinformation doesn't oblige me to provide a correction (because that's an easily exploitable infinite time sink). Please avoid making definitive statements you don't know to be true on this list in future. >> I went to a some effort to maintain an accessible archive of the last >> 32-bit cygwin (See [1]). >> >> Please don't spread misinformation. > > Both the OP and myself, and likely others, missed the alternative: > I just went back and reread it a few times, and finally got the point; > also in the Install FAQ - I just noticed it third time thru, after > searching the page for "sourceware". > [...] > > An incomplete list of sourceware mirrors is available at: > > https://sourceware.org/mirrors.html > > (Not all sourceware mirrors may carry the cygwin-archive mirror.) Again, this is wrong. sourceware mirrors by definition mirror the entire "ftp directory" from sourceware. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Is there, anywhere in the world, some place where ican rsync Cygin 32 bits ? 2023-06-11 17:58 ` Jon Turney @ 2023-06-15 16:37 ` Brian Inglis 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Brian Inglis @ 2023-06-15 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On 2023-06-11 11:58, Jon Turney via Cygwin wrote: > On 30/05/2023 20:55, Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote: >> On 2023-05-30 06:21, Jon Turney via Cygwin wrote: >>> On 29/05/2023 23:42, Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote: >>>> On 2023-05-29 16:06, akakima via Cygwin wrote: >>>>> Does such a place exist (beside fruitbat) ? >>>> >>>> Appears the master and all mirrors have stub setup.ini and nothing else! >>>> Only private mirrors like fruitbat are likely to maintain history. >>> >>> This answer is wrong is almost every particular. >> >> Good - nothing like a definitely wrong statement in a post to bring out an >> illuminating correction in a reply! > > No, we're not going to play that game. Posting misinformation doesn't oblige me > to provide a correction (because that's an easily exploitable infinite time sink). Sorry if you misinterpreted my jocular attempt to lighten the tone in response to your flame! > Please avoid making definitive statements you don't know to be true on this list > in future. As volunteer contributors, we all contribute where we can, and my statements were far from definitive, leaving room for more knowledgeable contributors to respond in their own timeframe, if they could. As I am neither a logician or mathematician, I never claim to make definitive statements or anything that is true, only contributions to the best of my admittedly limited ability and imperfect knowledge. As far as I, and possibly many others, were aware, fruitbat was the only known legacy archive. >>> I went to a some effort to maintain an accessible archive of the last 32-bit >>> cygwin (See [1]). >>> >>> Please don't spread misinformation. I feel you overreacted inappropriately in both your previous and latest replies. >> Both the OP and myself, and likely others, missed the alternative: >> I just went back and reread it a few times, and finally got the point; >> also in the Install FAQ - I just noticed it third time thru, after searching >> the page for "sourceware". >> > [...] >> >> An incomplete list of sourceware mirrors is available at: >> >> https://sourceware.org/mirrors.html >> >> (Not all sourceware mirrors may carry the cygwin-archive mirror.) > > Again, this is wrong. > > sourceware mirrors by definition mirror the entire "ftp directory" from sourceware. Then it appears that list of Sourceware mirrors should be updated as the listed mirror of funet.fi: https://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/sources.redhat.com/pub/ has neither a current Cygwin mirror nor any cygwin-archive mirror, and may not have any current Sourceware mirrors from what I see. However I see that site has a Cygwin mirror which is under a current Sourceware mirror including /cygwin-archive/20221123/: https://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/sourceware.org/pub/ [BTW mirrors.kernel.org appears to have dropped FTP (no response and not in Cygwin mirrors); also sourceware.org/cygwin link no longer appears to redirect to cygwin.com, although it does show the Cygwin home page, so most of the home page nav bar links do not appear to work correctly, giving 404 or an equivalent Sourceware page, unless the Cygwin and Sourceware site paths match FYI] -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Is there, anywhere in the world, some place where ican rsync Cygin 32 bits ? 2023-05-29 22:06 Is there, anywhere in the world, some place where ican rsync Cygin 32 bits ? akakima 2023-05-29 22:42 ` Brian Inglis @ 2023-05-30 12:16 ` Jon Turney 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Jon Turney @ 2023-05-30 12:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: akakima, The Cygwin Mailing List On 29/05/2023 23:06, akakima via Cygwin wrote: > Does such a place exist (beside fruitbat) ? Use the cygwin-archive/20221123 path (See [1]) on an rsyncable sourceware mirror (the list at [2] is sadly incomplete, not all of the cygwin mirrors listed at [3] have a full sourceware mirror) [1] https://cygwin.com/install.html#unsupported [2] https://sourceware.org/mirrors.html [3] https://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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