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From: Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>
To: "Christoph Müllner" <cmuellner@gcc.gnu.org>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Cc: Vineet Gupta <vineetg@rivosinc.com>,
	Andrea Parri <andrea@rivosinc.com>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, kito.cheng@sifive.com,
	gnu-toolchain@rivosinc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/10] [RISC-V] Atomics improvements [PR100265/PR100266]
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 17:11:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63025f89-aa29-56b8-887d-7dbab3a5ed64@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHB2gtRjV-soEsSxb_mj8mmWs0mfq8j+gCjE4LW23wyKiR5MWQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On 10/12/22 02:03, Christoph Müllner wrote:
>
>
> So we have the following atomics ABIs:
>  I) GCC implementation
>  II) LLVM implementation
>  III) Specified ABI in the "Code Porting and Mapping Guidelines" 
> appendix of the RISC-V specification

And presumably we don't have any way to distinguish between I and II at 
the DSO or object level.  That implies that if we're going to get to 
III, then we have to mark new code.  We obviously can't mark 
pre-existing bits (and I may have implied we should do that in my 
earlier message, my goof).



>
> And there are two proposed solutions:
>  a) Finding a new ABI that is compatible with I) and II) is of course 
> a solution, but we don't know if and when such a solution exists.
>  b) Going to introduce III) causes a break and therefore needs special 
> care (e.g. let the user decide via command line flag or provide a 
> compatibility mode).
>
> I don't see that a) and b) contradict each other.
> Why not going for both:
>  -) Continue to work on a backward compatible solution
>  -) Enable the "new" ABI from the specification appendix via command 
> line flag
>  -) Reevaluate the situation in 12 months to decide the next steps
I would lean towards making the new, more correct, behavior the default 
and having the old behavior enabled by a command line flag. But 
otherwise what you're suggesting seems reasonable.


Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-13 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-05 19:36 Christoph Muellner
2021-05-05 19:36 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] RISC-V: Simplify memory model code [PR 100265] Christoph Muellner
2021-05-05 19:36 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] RISC-V: Emit proper memory ordering suffixes for AMOs " Christoph Muellner
2021-05-05 19:36 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] RISC-V: Eliminate %F specifier from riscv_print_operand() " Christoph Muellner
2021-05-05 19:36 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] RISC-V: Use STORE instead of AMOSWAP for atomic stores " Christoph Muellner
2021-05-05 19:36 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] RISC-V: Emit fences according to chosen memory model " Christoph Muellner
2021-05-05 19:36 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] RISC-V: Implement atomic_{load,store} " Christoph Muellner
2021-05-05 19:36 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] RISC-V: Model INSNs for LR and SC [PR 100266] Christoph Muellner
2021-05-05 19:36 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] RISC-V: Add s.ext-consuming " Christoph Muellner
2021-05-05 19:36 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] RISC-V: Provide programmatic implementation of CAS " Christoph Muellner
2021-05-06  0:27   ` Jim Wilson
2021-05-05 19:36 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] RISC-V: Introduce predicate "riscv_sync_memory_operand" " Christoph Muellner
2022-10-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] [RISC-V] Atomics improvements [PR100265/PR100266] Vineet Gupta
2022-10-11 19:31   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-10-11 20:46     ` Christoph Müllner
2022-10-11 23:31       ` Vineet Gupta
2022-10-12  0:15         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-10-12  8:03           ` Christoph Müllner
2022-10-13 23:11             ` Jeff Law [this message]
2022-10-12 17:16           ` Andrea Parri
2022-10-20 19:01             ` Andrea Parri
2022-10-29  5:02               ` Jeff Law
2022-10-13 23:04           ` Jeff Law
2022-10-13 22:39         ` Jeff Law
2022-10-13 23:14           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-10-14 11:03             ` Christoph Müllner
2022-10-14 20:39               ` Jeff Law
2022-10-14 21:57                 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-10-15  0:31                   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-10-14  0:14           ` Vineet Gupta
2022-10-11 23:14     ` Jeff Law

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