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From: "Aktemur, Tankut Baris" <tankut.baris.aktemur@intel.com>
To: Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>,
	"gdb-patches@sourceware.org" <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 3/3] gdb, gdbserver: introduce the 'x' RSP packet for binary memory read
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 09:59:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DM4PR11MB7303584FA9CDCD1739758217C4282@DM4PR11MB7303.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v85pkmkl.fsf@tromey.com>

On Thursday, March 14, 2024 1:47 PM, Tom Tromey wrote:
> >>>>> Aktemur, Tankut Baris <tankut.baris.aktemur@intel.com> writes:
> 
> > Probing needs to sends an address: Which address shall we use? The same address we
> > are given in the first encounter?  And the length is 0.  Then, what if the address
> > is bad, e.g.  in an inaccessible region?  But because the length is 0, should the target
> > send a success result or an error?  From GDB's PoV, for probing, it doesn't matter, but
> > from target's perspective, I think it creates an odd situation.
> 
> I think the probing idea is that you simply try the 'x' command the
> first time it is needed.  If remote sends an empty response (not an 'E'
> response), then the packet isn't supported, so you disable it and retry
> with 'm'.
> 
> This is documented in the Overview node:
> 
>        For any COMMAND not supported by the stub, an empty response (‘$#00’)
>     should be returned.  That way it is possible to extend the protocol.  A
>     newer GDB can tell if a packet is supported based on that response.
> 
> Tom

Yes, I get this idea, and the 'X' packet actually uses it.  My concern there is
that (1) sending this packet with an arbitrary address and length 0 seems too
artificial; (2) using the proposed reply format, the target would send an empty reply
both when it does not recognize the packet and when it recognizes because the length
argument in the probe is 0 (the same problem would exist with the 'm', 'p', 'g' packets
if we were to probe them).  This would not be an issue if we decide to force the reply
to always start with a marker character, as suggested in Ciaran's email.

In general, there are two options:

* Send the binary data verbatim in the reply to the 'x' packet:
  (+) The definition of the packet is consistent with other similar packets.
  (-) We have to escape the 'E' character; we cannot use probing.

* Always start the reply to the 'x' packet with a marker character:
  (+) We wouldn't need to escape 'E'; we can use probing if we want to.
  (-) The packet definition kind of diverges from the other similar packets.

I opted for the first option when submitting the patches, but the second option
is also doable.

-Baris


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-15  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-13 15:35 [PATCH 0/3] Introduce the 'x' RSP packet Tankut Baris Aktemur
2024-03-13 15:35 ` [PATCH 1/3] gdbserver: allow suppressing the next putpkt remote-debug log Tankut Baris Aktemur
2024-03-13 19:10   ` Tom Tromey
2024-03-14 10:36     ` Aktemur, Tankut Baris
2024-03-13 15:35 ` [PATCH 2/3] rsp: add 'E' to escaped characters Tankut Baris Aktemur
2024-03-13 19:17   ` Tom Tromey
2024-03-13 15:35 ` [PATCH 3/3] gdb, gdbserver: introduce the 'x' RSP packet for binary memory read Tankut Baris Aktemur
2024-03-13 15:50   ` Luis Machado
2024-03-13 18:21     ` Aktemur, Tankut Baris
2024-03-14 10:01       ` Luis Machado
2024-03-13 15:58   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-13 19:27   ` Tom Tromey
2024-03-14 10:36     ` Aktemur, Tankut Baris
2024-03-14 12:46       ` Tom Tromey
2024-03-15  9:59         ` Aktemur, Tankut Baris [this message]
2024-03-19 16:01           ` Tom Tromey
2024-03-20 17:32             ` Aktemur, Tankut Baris
2024-03-20 20:12               ` Tom Tromey
2024-04-05 13:05             ` Andrew Burgess
2024-04-05 14:09               ` Tom Tromey
2024-04-08 21:36                 ` Andrew Burgess
2024-03-14 12:34     ` Aktemur, Tankut Baris
2024-03-14 13:07 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Introduce the 'x' RSP packet Tankut Baris Aktemur
2024-03-14 13:07   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] doc: fine-tune the documentation of the 'm' " Tankut Baris Aktemur
2024-03-14 15:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-14 13:07   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] gdbserver: allow suppressing the next putpkt remote-debug log Tankut Baris Aktemur
2024-03-14 13:07   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] rsp: add 'E' to escaped characters Tankut Baris Aktemur
2024-03-14 13:46     ` Ciaran Woodward
2024-03-14 15:19       ` Aktemur, Tankut Baris
2024-04-05 12:59         ` Andrew Burgess
2024-03-14 15:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-14 13:07   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] gdb, gdbserver: introduce the 'x' RSP packet for binary memory read Tankut Baris Aktemur
2024-04-09  7:48   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Introduce the 'x' RSP packet Tankut Baris Aktemur
2024-04-09  7:48     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] doc: fine-tune the documentation of the 'm' " Tankut Baris Aktemur
2024-04-09  9:27       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-09  7:48     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] gdbserver: allow suppressing the next putpkt remote-debug log Tankut Baris Aktemur
2024-04-09  7:48     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] gdb, gdbserver: introduce the 'x' RSP packet for binary memory read Tankut Baris Aktemur

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