From: Bob Rossi <bob@brasko.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: nathanw@wasabisystems.com, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Bumping MI protocol
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:38:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041006163131.GB12213@white> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01c4ab9d$Blat.v2.2.2$923860c0@zahav.net.il>
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 02:10:09PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 07:14:36 -0400
> > From: Bob Rossi <bob@brasko.net>
> > Cc: GDB <gdb@sources.redhat.com>
> >
> > Exscuse me for being frank, your statements about this question are foolish.
>
> I, for one, don't think Nathan's comments are foolish. As a volunteer
> project, we shouldn't waste too much time discussing hypothetical
> issues.
Either one of you, please describe to me which of these questions is
foolish, and I will clearly explain to you why I need to know this
information in order to build a front end.
1. Besides an MI command that has been changed in an incompatible way,
or the actual MI output syntax changing, does the MI version get
bumped for other reasons?
2. Can the conditions for bumping the MI version be enumerated?
3. Can this information be documented for all to easily understand?
4. Can a front end developer find all of the functions available to a
specific version of an MI protocol from the documentation?
> > Nathan, how could a front end implement an MIX protocol if it doesn't
> > know what functions that protocol provides?
>
> No one requires a front end to implement support for features that are
> introduced by GDB versions released after the front end is released.
> The only way for a front end to support new features is to track GDB
> development, and check the GDB and MI versions to know what commands
> are safe to use.
>
> Put it differently, even if the MI version would be incremented each
> time a new command is added (which IMHO would be an unwise policy),
> you would need an update for the front end to support that command.
I also do not think it would be a good idea to bump the version because
of new commands. I am asking because it's not documented anywhere. If
you want the questions to stop, maybe you will see that there is not
enough information avaiable for front end developers to figure these
thngs out.
Thanks,
Bob Rossi
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2004-10-06 1:03 Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 5:08 ` Nathan J. Williams
2004-10-06 11:27 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-06 16:38 ` Bob Rossi [this message]
2004-10-06 16:45 ` Nathan J. Williams
2004-10-06 19:53 ` Bob Rossi
[not found] ` <eliz@gnu.org>
2004-10-06 16:57 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-06 17:03 ` Bob Rossi
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2005-10-10 20:46 Laziness David Lecomber
2005-10-10 20:50 ` Laziness Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-10-10 21:05 ` Laziness David Lecomber
2005-10-10 21:09 ` Laziness Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-10-10 21:24 ` Laziness David Lecomber
2005-10-10 21:27 ` Laziness Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-10-10 23:53 ` Laziness Paul Hilfinger
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[not found] ` <1125360166.9350.69.camel@aretha.corp.specifix.com>
2005-08-30 1:13 ` HP gdb/wdb sources available Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-08-30 2:13 ` Paul Hilfinger
2004-10-26 14:49 backtrace changes current source location Felix Lee
2004-10-28 13:49 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-04 17:51 gdbserver, sysroot, prelink Felix Lee
2004-10-04 18:12 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-03 17:15 probing GDB for MI versions Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 9:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-04 13:19 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-05 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-05 12:34 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-06 11:47 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 12:13 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-06 16:31 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 16:46 ` Nathan J. Williams
2004-10-06 16:55 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 17:04 ` Nathan J. Williams
2004-10-06 17:15 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 16:57 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-06 17:12 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 17:21 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-06 17:24 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 17:31 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-06 17:38 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 17:41 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-06 17:55 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 18:19 ` Paul Koning
2004-10-07 10:56 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 14:15 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-07 14:28 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 14:37 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-07 14:39 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 14:50 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-07 15:38 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 15:49 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-07 16:31 ` Nathan J. Williams
2004-10-07 16:45 ` Alain Magloire
2004-10-07 17:12 ` Dave Korn
[not found] ` <200410071614.MAA19648@smtp.ott.qnx.com>
2004-10-08 6:56 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-08 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-10 18:13 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-11 17:46 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-13 12:14 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-13 12:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-13 14:05 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-14 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-14 19:34 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-14 21:23 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-15 15:40 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-15 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-15 13:28 ` Michael Chastain
2004-10-15 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-15 18:04 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-16 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-16 21:56 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-17 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-19 13:51 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-19 14:18 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-19 19:28 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-19 20:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-06 18:43 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-06 18:54 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 19:19 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-06 19:25 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 17:36 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-06 17:51 ` Paul Koning
2004-10-06 18:09 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 17:05 ` Alain Magloire
2004-10-06 19:16 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-06 19:20 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 20:10 ` Alain Magloire
2004-10-06 20:15 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 20:13 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-08 10:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 18:48 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
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2004-08-11 0:51 ` GDB/XMI (XML Machine Interface) Chris Friesen
[not found] ` <gdb001@speakeasy.net>
2004-08-11 6:28 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-11 8:25 ` Chris Friesen
2004-08-11 22:43 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-12 4:54 ` OT: " Chris Friesen
2004-08-20 10:34 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-20 12:54 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-20 18:34 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-08-20 18:49 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-20 18:52 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-08-20 19:25 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-20 19:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-08-20 19:59 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-21 10:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-21 12:34 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-21 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <bob@brasko.net>
2004-08-20 18:20 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-20 21:34 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-21 19:21 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-21 20:21 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-21 19:28 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-21 20:16 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-21 21:28 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-21 22:37 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-03 18:36 ` GDB/MI snapshots between major release's Felix Lee
2004-10-03 18:40 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-03 18:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-03 19:35 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-03 19:39 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-03 20:19 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 5:00 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-04 15:34 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-04 15:58 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 16:48 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-04 17:37 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 18:31 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-04 19:00 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 21:07 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-03 17:01 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 5:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-04 14:59 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 15:49 ` Mark Kettenis
2004-10-04 16:04 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-05 10:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-05 14:18 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-06 1:40 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 11:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-06 11:39 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-06 16:55 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 17:00 ` Paul Koning
2004-10-06 17:02 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 21:27 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-04 22:14 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-05 9:03 ` Fabian Cenedese
2004-10-05 9:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-05 13:37 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-05 18:53 ` probing GDB for MI versions Felix Lee
2004-10-06 17:14 ` GDB/MI snapshots between major release's Felix Lee
2004-10-06 17:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-06 18:41 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-06 18:50 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 18:55 ` Bumping MI protocol Felix Lee
2004-10-06 19:43 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 21:04 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-07 18:01 ` probing GDB for MI versions Felix Lee
2004-10-07 19:44 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-08 8:54 ` Fabian Cenedese
2004-10-19 20:13 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-19 20:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-19 21:27 ` Bob Rossi
2004-11-09 2:27 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-10 20:14 GDB/XMI (XML Machine Interface) Bob Rossi
2004-08-10 22:38 ` Kip Macy
2004-08-11 0:17 ` Michael Chastain
2004-08-11 7:36 ` Fabian Cenedese
2004-08-11 8:51 ` Nick NoSpam
2004-08-11 18:05 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-11 19:26 ` Alain Magloire
2004-08-11 22:35 ` Jason Molenda
2004-08-12 13:03 ` Nick NoSpam
2004-08-19 23:49 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-20 7:09 ` Chris Friesen
2004-08-20 12:47 ` Bob Rossi
2004-07-29 5:10 breaking at for-loop test line Allen Hopkins
2004-07-29 16:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-07-29 18:58 ` Andre Ancelin
2004-07-30 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-03 19:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-08-03 20:09 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-08-03 20:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-07-25 1:18 [proposal/testsuite] require build == host Michael Chastain
2004-07-25 1:52 ` Felix Lee
2004-07-25 2:43 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
[not found] ` <drow@false.org>
2004-07-25 22:36 ` Felix Lee
2004-07-26 18:07 ` Michael Chastain
2004-07-27 4:41 ` Felix Lee
2004-07-29 22:21 ` breaking at for-loop test line Felix Lee
2004-07-30 8:23 ` Baurjan Ismagulov
[not found] ` <ibr@ata.cs.hun.edu.tr>
2004-07-30 10:46 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-03 18:53 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-08-20 19:06 ` GDB/XMI (XML Machine Interface) Felix Lee
2004-08-20 19:09 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-08-20 19:20 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-21 12:37 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 19:05 ` gdbserver, sysroot, prelink Felix Lee
2004-10-04 19:24 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-05 13:03 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-05 13:52 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-05 13:53 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-06 17:58 ` GDB/MI snapshots between major release's Felix Lee
2004-10-29 8:32 ` backtrace changes current source location Felix Lee
2004-07-25 7:59 ` [proposal/testsuite] require build == host Eli Zaretskii
2004-07-27 0:45 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-07-27 2:31 ` Michael Chastain
2004-07-27 4:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-07-27 15:32 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-07-27 15:50 ` Christopher Faylor
2004-07-27 21:17 ` Michael Chastain
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