From: Bob Rossi <bob@brasko.net>
To: Felix Lee <felix.1@canids.net>
Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Bumping MI protocol
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:03:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041006170238.GF12213@white> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041006165727.B1384502AB6@stray.canids>
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 09:57:27AM -0700, Felix Lee wrote:
> "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>:
> > > From: Bob Rossi <bob@brasko.net>
> > > Exscuse me for being frank, your statements about this question are foolish.
> >
> > I, for one, don't think Nathan's comments are foolish. As a volunteer
> > project, we shouldn't waste too much time discussing hypothetical
> > issues.
>
> I agree with Eli and Nathan, from a different angle.
>
> I've never tried implementing a gdb front-end, but if I had to do
> one, I wouldn't rely on gdb conforming exactly to any particular
> specification, because bugs happen, and eliminating all bugs is
> not going to happen in my lifetime.
OK, so here it is again. GDB does not plan on supporting people that
generate there parser from the official MI output syntax ( grammar )?
> users are unlikely to be happy about restarting a complicated
> debugging session when they encounter a bug in the debugger, so a
> robust front-end will need to do some sanity checking of the
> conversation, and it will also need a method of resynchronizing
> the conversation when the sanity checks fail.
Yes, the grammar needs to change. This should all be taken into account
during the development of an MI protocol. Tests should be made for every
MI output command, and the output should be tested to make sure they
conform to the syntax.
> if a front-end has this basic adaptability, then it's not that
> big a deal if any one-off version of gdb doesn't conform exactly
> to spec. so you can concentrate effort on making things work
> well for the versions of gdb that are commonly in use.
> --
Yes yes, you want to see me write one large parser that handles
everything and anything thrown at it, including the english language.
Bob Rossi
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2004-10-06 1:03 Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 5:08 ` Nathan J. Williams
2004-10-06 11:27 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-06 16:38 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 16:45 ` Nathan J. Williams
2004-10-06 19:53 ` Bob Rossi
[not found] ` <eliz@gnu.org>
2004-10-06 16:57 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-06 17:03 ` Bob Rossi [this message]
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2005-10-10 20:46 Laziness David Lecomber
2005-10-10 20:50 ` Laziness Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-10-10 21:05 ` Laziness David Lecomber
2005-10-10 21:09 ` Laziness Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-10-10 21:24 ` Laziness David Lecomber
2005-10-10 21:27 ` Laziness Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-10-10 23:53 ` Laziness Paul Hilfinger
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[not found] ` <1125360166.9350.69.camel@aretha.corp.specifix.com>
2005-08-30 1:13 ` HP gdb/wdb sources available Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-08-30 2:13 ` Paul Hilfinger
2004-10-26 14:49 backtrace changes current source location Felix Lee
2004-10-28 13:49 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-04 17:51 gdbserver, sysroot, prelink Felix Lee
2004-10-04 18:12 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-03 17:15 probing GDB for MI versions Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 9:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-04 13:19 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-05 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-05 12:34 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-06 11:47 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 12:13 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-06 16:31 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 16:46 ` Nathan J. Williams
2004-10-06 16:55 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 17:04 ` Nathan J. Williams
2004-10-06 17:15 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 16:57 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-06 17:12 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 17:21 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-06 17:24 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 17:31 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-06 17:38 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 17:41 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-06 17:55 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 18:19 ` Paul Koning
2004-10-07 10:56 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 14:15 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-07 14:28 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 14:37 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-07 14:39 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 14:50 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-07 15:38 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 15:49 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-07 16:31 ` Nathan J. Williams
2004-10-07 16:45 ` Alain Magloire
2004-10-07 17:12 ` Dave Korn
[not found] ` <200410071614.MAA19648@smtp.ott.qnx.com>
2004-10-08 6:56 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-08 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-10 18:13 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-11 17:46 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-13 12:14 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-13 12:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-13 14:05 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-14 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-14 19:34 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-14 21:23 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-15 15:40 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-15 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-15 13:28 ` Michael Chastain
2004-10-15 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-15 18:04 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-16 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-16 21:56 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-17 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-19 13:51 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-19 14:18 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-19 19:28 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-19 20:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-06 18:43 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-06 18:54 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 19:19 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-06 19:25 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2004-10-06 17:36 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-06 17:51 ` Paul Koning
2004-10-06 18:09 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 17:05 ` Alain Magloire
2004-10-06 19:16 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-06 19:20 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 20:10 ` Alain Magloire
2004-10-06 20:15 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 20:13 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-08 10:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 18:48 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
[not found] <5956F1E2-EB0D-11D8-9949-000A9569836A@apple.com>
2004-08-11 0:51 ` GDB/XMI (XML Machine Interface) Chris Friesen
[not found] ` <gdb001@speakeasy.net>
2004-08-11 6:28 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-11 8:25 ` Chris Friesen
2004-08-11 22:43 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-12 4:54 ` OT: " Chris Friesen
2004-08-20 10:34 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-20 12:54 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-20 18:34 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-08-20 18:49 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-20 18:52 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-08-20 19:25 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-20 19:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-08-20 19:59 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-21 10:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-21 12:34 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-21 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <bob@brasko.net>
2004-08-20 18:20 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-20 21:34 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-21 19:21 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-21 20:21 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-21 19:28 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-21 20:16 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-21 21:28 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-21 22:37 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-03 18:36 ` GDB/MI snapshots between major release's Felix Lee
2004-10-03 18:40 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-03 18:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-03 19:35 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-03 19:39 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-03 20:19 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 5:00 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-04 15:34 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-04 15:58 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 16:48 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-04 17:37 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 18:31 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-04 19:00 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 21:07 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-03 17:01 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 5:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-04 14:59 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 15:49 ` Mark Kettenis
2004-10-04 16:04 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-05 10:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-05 14:18 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-06 1:40 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 11:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-06 11:39 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-06 16:55 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 17:00 ` Paul Koning
2004-10-06 17:02 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 21:27 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-04 22:14 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-05 9:03 ` Fabian Cenedese
2004-10-05 9:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-05 13:37 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-05 18:53 ` probing GDB for MI versions Felix Lee
2004-10-06 17:14 ` GDB/MI snapshots between major release's Felix Lee
2004-10-06 17:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-06 18:41 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-06 18:50 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 18:55 ` Bumping MI protocol Felix Lee
2004-10-06 19:43 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-06 21:04 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-07 18:01 ` probing GDB for MI versions Felix Lee
2004-10-07 19:44 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-08 8:54 ` Fabian Cenedese
2004-10-19 20:13 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-19 20:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-19 21:27 ` Bob Rossi
2004-11-09 2:27 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-10 20:14 GDB/XMI (XML Machine Interface) Bob Rossi
2004-08-10 22:38 ` Kip Macy
2004-08-11 0:17 ` Michael Chastain
2004-08-11 7:36 ` Fabian Cenedese
2004-08-11 8:51 ` Nick NoSpam
2004-08-11 18:05 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-11 19:26 ` Alain Magloire
2004-08-11 22:35 ` Jason Molenda
2004-08-12 13:03 ` Nick NoSpam
2004-08-19 23:49 ` Bob Rossi
2004-08-20 7:09 ` Chris Friesen
2004-08-20 12:47 ` Bob Rossi
2004-07-29 5:10 breaking at for-loop test line Allen Hopkins
2004-07-29 16:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-07-29 18:58 ` Andre Ancelin
2004-07-30 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-03 19:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-08-03 20:09 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-08-03 20:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-07-25 1:18 [proposal/testsuite] require build == host Michael Chastain
2004-07-25 1:52 ` Felix Lee
2004-07-25 2:43 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
[not found] ` <drow@false.org>
2004-07-25 22:36 ` Felix Lee
2004-07-26 18:07 ` Michael Chastain
2004-07-27 4:41 ` Felix Lee
2004-07-29 22:21 ` breaking at for-loop test line Felix Lee
2004-07-30 8:23 ` Baurjan Ismagulov
[not found] ` <ibr@ata.cs.hun.edu.tr>
2004-07-30 10:46 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-03 18:53 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-08-20 19:06 ` GDB/XMI (XML Machine Interface) Felix Lee
2004-08-20 19:09 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-08-20 19:20 ` Felix Lee
2004-08-21 12:37 ` Bob Rossi
2004-10-04 19:05 ` gdbserver, sysroot, prelink Felix Lee
2004-10-04 19:24 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-05 13:03 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-05 13:52 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-05 13:53 ` Felix Lee
2004-10-06 17:58 ` GDB/MI snapshots between major release's Felix Lee
2004-10-29 8:32 ` backtrace changes current source location Felix Lee
2004-07-25 7:59 ` [proposal/testsuite] require build == host Eli Zaretskii
2004-07-27 0:45 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-07-27 2:31 ` Michael Chastain
2004-07-27 4:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-07-27 15:32 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-07-27 15:50 ` Christopher Faylor
2004-07-27 21:17 ` Michael Chastain
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