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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, "Florian Weimer" <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	"Cristian Rodríguez" <crrodriguez@opensuse.org>,
	"Paul Eggert" <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	"Mark Harris" <mark.hsj@gmail.com>,
	"Eric Biggers" <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] arc4random: simplify design for better safety
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 20:36:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YuA0PcpBdWU5MS9s@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45ef8ca0-12ca-4853-98a0-9f52dfca8c57@linaro.org>

Hi Adhemerval,

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 01:20:11PM -0300, Adhemerval Zanella Netto wrote:
> > +	{
> > +	  atomic_store_relaxed (&have_getrandom, false);
> 
> I still think there is no much gain in this optimization, the syscall will
> most likely be present and it is one less static data.  Also, we avoid to
> use __ASSUME_GETRANDOM on generic code (all __ASSUME usage within
> sysdeps and/or nptl).

Oh! *That's* what you were talking about before. Sorry I didn't catch
your meaning the first time through.

Okay so you're alright having +1 syscall overhead on old systems, so
that new systems can have a byte less of static data. I don't hold any
opinions either way there and will defer to your expertise, so I'll get
rid of this part on v5.

> > +    __ppoll_infinity_nocancel;
> >      __sigtimedwait;
> >      # functions used by nscd
> >      __netlink_assert_response;
> 
> There is no need to export on GLIBC_PRIVATE, since it is not currently usage
> libc.so.  Just define is a hidden (attribute_hidden).
> Use attribute_hidden here and remove it from sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/Versions.
>> Maybe just add an inline wrapper on sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/not-cancel.h, 
> as for __getrandom_nocancel:
> It avoids a lot of boilerplate code to add the internal symbol.

Okay I'll skip all the symbol stuff and just do the static inline like
getrandom has. Thanks for the suggestion; that's a lot simpler.

> Also update the hurd sysdeps/mach/hurd/not-cancel.h with a wrapper to 
> __poll (since it does not really support pthread cancellation).

Ack.

Thanks for the comments. v5 coming up shortly.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-26 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2022-07-23 16:25 ` arc4random - are you sure we want these? Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-23 17:18   ` Paul Eggert
2022-07-24 23:55     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 20:31       ` Paul Eggert
2022-07-23 17:39   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-23 22:54     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 15:33     ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 15:59       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-25 17:41         ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 16:18       ` Sandy Harris
2022-07-25 16:40       ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-25 16:49         ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-25 16:51         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 17:44         ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 18:33           ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-25 18:49             ` Rich Felker
2022-07-27  1:54               ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-07-27  2:16                 ` Rich Felker
2022-07-27  2:45                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-07-27 11:34                 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-27 12:32                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-07-27 12:49                     ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-27 20:15                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-07-27 21:59                         ` Rich Felker
2022-07-28  0:30                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-07-28  0:39                         ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-27 15:39                   ` Rich Felker
2022-07-23 19:04   ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-23 22:59     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-24 16:23       ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-24 21:57         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 10:14     ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-25 10:11   ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-25 11:04     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 12:39       ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-25 13:43         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 13:58           ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-07-25 16:06           ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 16:43             ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-26 14:27         ` Overwrittting AT_RANDOM after use (was Re: arc4random - are you sure we want these?) Yann Droneaud
2022-07-26 14:35         ` arc4random - are you sure we want these? Yann Droneaud
2022-07-25 13:25       ` Jeffrey Walton
2022-07-25 13:48         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 14:56     ` Rich Felker
2022-07-25 22:57   ` [PATCH] arc4random: simplify design for better safety Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 23:11     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 23:28     ` [PATCH v2] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 23:59       ` Eric Biggers
2022-07-26 10:26         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26  1:10       ` Mark Harris
2022-07-26 10:41         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:06           ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-26 16:51           ` Mark Harris
2022-07-26 18:42             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 19:18               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 19:24               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26  9:55       ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-26 11:04         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:07           ` [PATCH v3] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:11             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:12           ` [PATCH v2] " Florian Weimer
2022-07-26 11:20             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 11:35               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 11:33       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 11:54         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 12:08           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 12:20           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 12:34           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 12:47             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 13:11               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 13:30     ` [PATCH v4] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 15:21       ` Yann Droneaud
2022-07-26 16:20       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 18:36         ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2022-07-26 19:08       ` [PATCH v5] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 19:58         ` [PATCH v6] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-26 20:17           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-26 20:56             ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-28 10:29           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-07-28 10:36             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-07-28 11:01               ` Adhemerval Zanella

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