From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Jim Wilson <jimw@sifive.com>
Cc: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@elastic.org>,
overseers@gcc.gnu.org,
"Frank Ch. Eigler via Gcc" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
Overseers mailing list <overseers@sourceware.org>,
Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Subject: Re: Not usable email content encoding
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 19:32:42 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200319003242.GT22482@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFyWVaZfY-CfXwsTwrF8LduSBMYdFecD3x7MLP0ZYb8pC5qZPA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi!
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:52:14PM -0700, Jim Wilson wrote:
> I'm one of the old timers that likes our current work flow, but even I
> think that we are risking our future by staying with antiquated tools.
It's not ancient tools, it is low-requirement generic tools, and
everyone can use that to build a workflow that works for him/herself.
> One of the first things I need to teach new people is now to use email
> "properly". It is a barrier to entry for new contributors, since our
> requirements aren't how the rest of the world uses email anymore.
Knowing how to use email properly is a very useful life skill.
A large part of the Free Software (and open source) world still uses
email as primary communication medium, too.
Also you might want to read https://lwn.net/Articles/702177/ for a
different viewpoint.
> LLVM has phabricator. Some git based projects are using gerrit.
> Github and gitlab are useful services. We need to think about setting
> up easier ways for people to submit patches, rather than trying to fix
> all of the MUAs and MTAs in the world.
People should not just send patches: they need to explain why it would
be a good idea to include that patch, which requires a lot of talking
*about* the patch. Email is a difficult medium for that, but it is
still _much_ better than any of the code review website things, imo.
The key point is that email is completely free-form, I think?
Segher
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-19 0:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-16 13:45 Martin Liška
2020-03-16 13:47 ` Richard Earnshaw
2020-03-16 13:52 ` Martin Liška
2020-03-16 13:51 ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-16 13:52 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-16 13:54 ` Alexander Monakov
2020-03-16 14:11 ` Martin Liška
2020-03-16 14:18 ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-03-17 19:46 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-17 19:51 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-17 21:45 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-18 10:38 ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-18 11:01 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-18 11:39 ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-18 14:19 ` Michael Matz
2020-03-18 14:22 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-18 15:15 ` Bernd Schmidt
2020-03-18 16:22 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-18 16:42 ` Michael Matz
2020-03-18 17:36 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-03-18 21:52 ` Jim Wilson
2020-03-18 22:29 ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-03-18 22:34 ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-03-18 22:44 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-19 3:30 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-03-19 3:32 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-03-18 22:45 ` Joseph Myers
2020-03-18 23:02 ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-03-19 13:05 ` Tom Tromey
2020-03-19 13:26 ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-19 13:41 ` Richard Biener
2020-03-19 13:58 ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-19 18:17 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-23 0:54 ` Tamar Christina
2020-04-23 5:47 ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-23 7:34 ` Richard Biener
2020-04-23 9:55 ` Tamar Christina
[not found] ` <CAH6eHdShSXwc4K7ar9HWgHu12tDQe-s2LifdvmVp8VytwYV-ew@mail.gmail.com>
2020-04-23 8:39 ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-04-23 15:32 ` Jeff Law
2020-04-23 11:46 ` Segher Boessenkool
[not found] ` <CAH6eHdTHsZWO9vuycKm22dDbSGSfzcrKbzEpb6vNdb-zXCiKjQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-04-23 12:30 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-23 15:33 ` Jeff Law
2020-04-23 16:57 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-04-23 20:32 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-23 20:27 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-23 21:14 ` Tom Tromey
2020-04-24 15:48 ` Thomas Koenig
2020-04-24 17:09 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-05-01 15:51 ` Jeff Law
2020-05-02 12:50 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-19 18:08 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-18 22:33 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-19 0:17 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-19 0:32 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2020-04-06 20:58 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-04-06 21:09 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-04-06 21:59 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
[not found] ` <CAH6eHdTqJEM90d9+nNWrAa_zZrQQha79oMbnbVsRt_2Zd90PdA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-04-07 9:53 ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-08 12:38 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-04-08 13:50 ` Michael Matz
2020-04-08 21:15 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-13 19:47 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-13 22:53 ` Michael Matz
2020-04-14 21:06 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-14 21:38 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-04-15 2:59 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-07 15:13 ` Michael Matz
2020-04-07 15:22 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-04-07 15:56 ` Michael Matz
2020-04-07 16:09 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-07 17:08 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-04-09 18:19 ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-07 16:08 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-07 16:58 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-04-06 23:15 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-21 22:29 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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