From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@wdc.com>
To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@elastic.org>
Cc: Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@t-online.de>,
overseers@gcc.gnu.org,
"Frank Ch. Eigler via Gcc" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
Overseers mailing list <overseers@sourceware.org>,
Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Subject: Re: Not usable email content encoding
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 22:59:26 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.21.2004062244470.461@redsun52.ssa.fujisawa.hgst.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200406210946.GY323051@elastic.org>
Hi Frank,
> > I am fairly sure it breaks `git am' too, requiring a `From' override in
> > the change description for author attribution in patch application to work
> > reliably (I tend to work on my outbox when applying my own patches, so I
> > avoid this issue, but I am sure the issue will hit someone sooner or
> > later).
>
> That part is at least pretty easy: use
> git format-patch --from "Real Name git <you@email.com>"
> which will then force a second fake From: header into the body of
> the commit email, where git-am can find it.
Sure, there are various ways to deal with that, both on the sender's and
the receiver's side, however all require a manual intervention and are
therefore prone to a human error. Which will obviously happen sooner or
later.
> > This is all silly, requiring the SMTP envelope sender to match the `From'
> > header breaks even the most basic e-mail mechanisms like the use of a
> > `.forward' file. [...]
>
> Unfortunately naive .forward based forwarding looks exactly like faked
> or spam email to a third party MTAs.
And can certainly score a positive though not a definite rating in spam
qualification. I don't think we ought to encourage bad IT management
practices by trying to adapt to them too hard and hurting ourselves (our
workflow) in the process.
> > How come the Linux kernel people who do e-mail patch management on a
> > vastly larger scale than we do, both in terms of traffic and the
> > number of mailing list subscribers, can get away without all these
> > odd quirks in their list server management? [...]
>
> I'm not sure, but their mails tend to be laden with a vast number of
> Cc:'s, which bypass mailing list reflectors.
Surely all the bots receive messages via a mailing list subscription
though. Cc's are solely for maintainers, reviewers or other explicitly
interested parties. Some maintainers actually require submissions to come
via the relevant mailing list rather directly to them. Somehow it works.
Thank you for your input regardless!
Maciej
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-16 13:45 Martin Liška
2020-03-16 13:47 ` Richard Earnshaw
2020-03-16 13:52 ` Martin Liška
2020-03-16 13:51 ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-16 13:52 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-16 13:54 ` Alexander Monakov
2020-03-16 14:11 ` Martin Liška
2020-03-16 14:18 ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-03-17 19:46 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-17 19:51 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-17 21:45 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-18 10:38 ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-18 11:01 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-18 11:39 ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-18 14:19 ` Michael Matz
2020-03-18 14:22 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-18 15:15 ` Bernd Schmidt
2020-03-18 16:22 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-18 16:42 ` Michael Matz
2020-03-18 17:36 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-03-18 21:52 ` Jim Wilson
2020-03-18 22:29 ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-03-18 22:34 ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-03-18 22:44 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-19 3:30 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-03-19 3:32 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-03-18 22:45 ` Joseph Myers
2020-03-18 23:02 ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-03-19 13:05 ` Tom Tromey
2020-03-19 13:26 ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-19 13:41 ` Richard Biener
2020-03-19 13:58 ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-19 18:17 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-23 0:54 ` Tamar Christina
2020-04-23 5:47 ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-23 7:34 ` Richard Biener
2020-04-23 9:55 ` Tamar Christina
[not found] ` <CAH6eHdShSXwc4K7ar9HWgHu12tDQe-s2LifdvmVp8VytwYV-ew@mail.gmail.com>
2020-04-23 8:39 ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-04-23 15:32 ` Jeff Law
2020-04-23 11:46 ` Segher Boessenkool
[not found] ` <CAH6eHdTHsZWO9vuycKm22dDbSGSfzcrKbzEpb6vNdb-zXCiKjQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-04-23 12:30 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-23 15:33 ` Jeff Law
2020-04-23 16:57 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-04-23 20:32 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-23 20:27 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-23 21:14 ` Tom Tromey
2020-04-24 15:48 ` Thomas Koenig
2020-04-24 17:09 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-05-01 15:51 ` Jeff Law
2020-05-02 12:50 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-19 18:08 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-18 22:33 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-19 0:17 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-19 0:32 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-06 20:58 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-04-06 21:09 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-04-06 21:59 ` Maciej W. Rozycki [this message]
[not found] ` <CAH6eHdTqJEM90d9+nNWrAa_zZrQQha79oMbnbVsRt_2Zd90PdA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-04-07 9:53 ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-08 12:38 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-04-08 13:50 ` Michael Matz
2020-04-08 21:15 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-13 19:47 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-13 22:53 ` Michael Matz
2020-04-14 21:06 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-14 21:38 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-04-15 2:59 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-07 15:13 ` Michael Matz
2020-04-07 15:22 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-04-07 15:56 ` Michael Matz
2020-04-07 16:09 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-07 17:08 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-04-09 18:19 ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-07 16:08 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-07 16:58 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-04-06 23:15 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-21 22:29 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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