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From: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@elastic.org>
Cc: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>,
	 "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@wdc.com>,
	overseers@gcc.gnu.org,
	 "Frank Ch. Eigler via Gcc" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	 Overseers mailing list <overseers@sourceware.org>,
	 Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	 Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>,
	 "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Subject: Re: Not usable email content encoding
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 15:56:09 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.21.2004071553350.29756@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200407152204.GD323051@elastic.org>

Hello,

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:

> > I find that unconvincing, because even googlegroup email lists don't 
> > mangle From: from sender domains that are now mangled by sourceware.org 
> > :-/
> 
> It turns out receiving mail FROM google-groups mail is itself
> sometimes at risk because it fails to do this From: mangling, and its
> ARC/DKIM re-signature of mail requires even more software to process
> and bless.  (Its current behaviour on some groups-gmail lists I'm on
> are DMARC non-compliant.)

In a way that's amusing and just reinforces my p.o.v. that DMARC is 
bollocks.

> > Can we please switch it off?  It's not like we really had a problem
> > before the switch to mailman.
> 
> We have offered some first-hand evidence that there were problems,
> just they were worked on by people in the background.

Okay, now the question is, are those problems offsetting the current 
problems?  IMHO they don't, but of course I'm heavily biased, not having 
had those old problems  :)


Ciao,
Michael.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-07 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-16 13:45 Martin Liška
2020-03-16 13:47 ` Richard Earnshaw
2020-03-16 13:52   ` Martin Liška
2020-03-16 13:51 ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-16 13:52 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-16 13:54 ` Alexander Monakov
2020-03-16 14:11   ` Martin Liška
2020-03-16 14:18     ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-03-17 19:46   ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-17 19:51     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-17 21:45       ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-18 10:38       ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-18 11:01         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-18 11:39           ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-18 14:19           ` Michael Matz
2020-03-18 14:22             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-18 15:15               ` Bernd Schmidt
2020-03-18 16:22                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-18 16:42                   ` Michael Matz
2020-03-18 17:36                     ` Christopher Faylor
2020-03-18 21:52                     ` Jim Wilson
2020-03-18 22:29                       ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-03-18 22:34                         ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-03-18 22:44                           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-19  3:30                             ` Christopher Faylor
2020-03-19  3:32                               ` Christopher Faylor
2020-03-18 22:45                         ` Joseph Myers
2020-03-18 23:02                           ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-03-19 13:05                         ` Tom Tromey
2020-03-19 13:26                           ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-19 13:41                             ` Richard Biener
2020-03-19 13:58                               ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-19 18:17                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-23  0:54                                 ` Tamar Christina
2020-04-23  5:47                                   ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-23  7:34                                     ` Richard Biener
2020-04-23  9:55                                     ` Tamar Christina
     [not found]                                     ` <CAH6eHdShSXwc4K7ar9HWgHu12tDQe-s2LifdvmVp8VytwYV-ew@mail.gmail.com>
2020-04-23  8:39                                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-04-23 15:32                                       ` Jeff Law
2020-04-23 11:46                                   ` Segher Boessenkool
     [not found]                                     ` <CAH6eHdTHsZWO9vuycKm22dDbSGSfzcrKbzEpb6vNdb-zXCiKjQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-04-23 12:30                                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-23 15:33                                     ` Jeff Law
2020-04-23 16:57                                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-04-23 20:32                                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-23 20:27                                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-23 21:14                                         ` Tom Tromey
2020-04-24 15:48                                           ` Thomas Koenig
2020-04-24 17:09                                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-05-01 15:51                                           ` Jeff Law
2020-05-02 12:50                                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-19 18:08                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-18 22:33                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-19  0:17                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-19  0:32                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-06 20:58                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-04-06 21:09                     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-04-06 21:59                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found]                         ` <CAH6eHdTqJEM90d9+nNWrAa_zZrQQha79oMbnbVsRt_2Zd90PdA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-04-07  9:53                           ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-08 12:38                             ` Mark Wielaard
2020-04-08 13:50                               ` Michael Matz
2020-04-08 21:15                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-13 19:47                                   ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-13 22:53                                     ` Michael Matz
2020-04-14 21:06                                       ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-14 21:38                                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-04-15  2:59                                           ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-07 15:13                           ` Michael Matz
2020-04-07 15:22                             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-04-07 15:56                               ` Michael Matz [this message]
2020-04-07 16:09                                 ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-07 17:08                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-04-09 18:19                                     ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-07 16:08                             ` Christopher Faylor
2020-04-07 16:58                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-04-06 23:15                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-21 22:29     ` Maciej W. Rozycki

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