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From: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Project Archer <archer@sourceware.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: ptrace improvement ideas
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 20:41:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110208204050.GA15482@host1.dyn.jankratochvil.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110208015844.B994A1814A4@magilla.sf.frob.com>

On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 02:58:44 +0100, Roland McGrath wrote:
> > 	linux_proc_pending_signals (/proc/PID/status) -> now 2x sigset_t
> > 	-> PTRACE_IS_SIGNUM_PENDING or PTRACE_GET_PENDING_SIGSET etc.
> > 	(GDB is only interested in SIGINT from that sigset_t now.)
> 
> I'm surprised that GDB wants to know such a thing.  It makes me suspect
> there is a deeper problem to which looking that up is a workaround.
> Can you explain?

-> linux_nat_has_pending_sigint -> maybe_clear_ignore_sigint

http://sourceware.org/ml/gdb-patches/2005-04/msg00041.html

without it single CTRL-C gets reported for each process in a process group:

echo 'main(){ fork(); pause(); }' | gcc -x c -; patched-gdb -nx ./a.out 
(gdb) set detach-on-fork off
(gdb) set target-async on
(gdb) set non-stop on
(gdb) run
Starting program: .../a.out 
[New process 19546]
^C <----------------------------------------------------
Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt.
0x00000032a1cadb40 in __pause_nocancel () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:82
[...]
Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt.
0x00000032a1cadb40 in __pause_nocancel () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:82

(Not reproducible with NPTL threads.)


> > 	linux_nat_core_of_thread_1 (/proc/%d/task/%ld/stat)
> > 	-> PTRACE_GET_CPUCORE -> long return value as the CPU #
> 
> I had no idea GDB cared about such a thing at all.  Why does it?

It may be generally useless on normal platforms but Ericsson exchanges use
some CPU-affinities of tasks and Eclipse displays it for that purpose.
I failed to display the CPU core # now in Eclipse.

The MI protocol has to provide it as FE (Front End) does not explicitly ask
for it.


> > [nitpick] or PTRACE_GETSIGINFO after waitpid, as GDB does.
> 
> This is a misunderstanding.

OK, sorry, got it now.


> The point of using waitid is that you can see the new si_tgid field, and
> hence receive both the thread-specific ID and the process-wide TGID for a
> tracee that you haven't seen before.

GDB has linux_proc_get_tgid :-) but only to workaround nptl/5983 fixed by you,
again reading "/proc/%d/status", for "Tgid".


> Otherwise, PTRACE_O_INHERIT results
> in spontaneous reports for new IDs that you know nothing about and have no
> way to associate with where they came from.  The si_tgid idea addresses the
> problem for the case of new threads (standard NPTL threads, that
> is--CLONE_THREAD thread creations in the kernel's terms).  It doesn't help
> at all for other kinds of creations, such as a normal fork or vfork.


> That is why I suggested it might actually not be desireable to have
> PTRACE_O_INHERIT apply to all new creations, but instead make it limited to
> CLONE_THREAD creations.

PTRACE_O_INHERIT cannot be used for fork/vfork with `set detach-on-fork on'
(the default mode, so that it is not multi-inferior) as GDB needs to remove
software breakpoints.  But the goal is multi-inferior `set detach-on-fork off'
anyway so in that mode PTRACE_O_INHERIT could apply even for fork/vfork.


> I'm interested in your thoughts on the issue of
> how GDB deals with the first report of an ID it hasn't seen before.  With
> current kernels, the only such situation that's possible is the brief race
> between a new PTRACE_O_TRACE{CLONE,FORK,VFORK} child reporting its first
> stop, and its parent reporting the PTRACE_EVENT_{CLONE,FORK,VFORK} stop for
> that child's creation (at which time PTRACE_GETEVENTMSG tells you the
> association between that parent's creation attempt and the new child).

`stopped_pids' tracks tasks which got reported as stopped before the parent's
PTRACE_EVENT_{CLONE,FORK,VFORK} has been seen.


With multi-inferior `set detach-on-fork off', with no
PTRACE_O_TRACE{CLONE,FORK,VFORK} and using PTRACE_O_INHERIT it could apply for
both clones and forks/vforks, couldn't it?  There is no longer any need to
track `stopped_pids'.


PTRACE_O_TRACEEXEC still needs to stop the inferior as GDB needs to reinsert
all the software breakpoints to their newly computed addresses.


Thanks,
Jan

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-08 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-03 22:39 Roland McGrath
2011-02-04 18:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-04 18:58   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-07 21:11 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-08  1:58   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-08 20:41     ` Jan Kratochvil [this message]
2011-02-09  2:48       ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-08 21:07     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-08 23:18       ` hw_breakpoint userland interface Roland McGrath
2011-02-10 21:03         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-10 21:14           ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-11 20:17             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-10 20:00 ` ptrace improvement: PTRACE_O_INHERIT Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-11 19:24   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-11 20:46     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-12  0:59       ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-12 19:11         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-14 19:31           ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-14 19:46             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-15  0:36               ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-15 13:16                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-15 21:43                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-15 21:56                     ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 19:42                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 19:45                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:09                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:16                             ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-19 19:48                             ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-19 20:37                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-20  8:18                                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-20 21:05                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-21 19:54                                 ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-22 19:39                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-22 20:49                                     ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-22 21:10                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-22 22:16                                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-21 19:44                               ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-15 22:02                     ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 16:02                       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-16 18:28                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:00                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:07                             ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:32                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 19:48                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:02                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:15                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:31                             ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 21:04                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 21:51                                 ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 19:38                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 19:40                       ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-15 22:17                   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:48                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 11:31 ` ptrace improvement ideas (QPassSignals) Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-16 18:36   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:21     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-18 20:24       ` Oleg Nesterov

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