public inbox for archer@sourceware.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
Cc: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Project Archer <archer@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: ptrace improvement: PTRACE_O_INHERIT
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:05:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110220205707.GA4894@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110220081758.GA7524@host1.dyn.jankratochvil.net>

On 02/20, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
>
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:29:21 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > Cough. I still can't understand why gdb needs tkill(TID, 0). Please
> > ignore, I know nothing about gdb implementation.
> >
> > However. With or without PTRACE_O_TRACEEXIT, the thread can't go away
> > until ptracer does do_wait(WEXITED). And until it does do_wait() tkill()
> > succeeds even if the tracee is dead/zombie.
>
> Maybe:
>           /* The thread has previously exited.  We need to delete it
>              now because, for some vendor 2.4 kernels with NPTL
>              support backported, there won't be an exit event unless
>              it is the main thread.  2.6 kernels will report an exit
>              event for each thread that exits, as expected.  */
>
> There probably was a reason why it was once implemented.

Probably yes... I tried to understand this code, but failed. I am
not suprised, gdb is not trivial.

But. This makes me think that Roland was right, gdb needs tgkill().
Otherwise, if the old kernel does not report the exit via WIFEXITED,
then tkill(TID, 0) can succeed while the tracee has gone away.

> Unfortunately GDB is
> in use also on embedded targets with obsolete and patched Linux kernels so it
> is not welcome to remove such code.

Heh, I see. I always knew that the kernel hacking is simple compared
to user-space development ;)

Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-20 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-03 22:39 ptrace improvement ideas Roland McGrath
2011-02-04 18:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-04 18:58   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-07 21:11 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-08  1:58   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-08 20:41     ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-09  2:48       ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-08 21:07     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-08 23:18       ` hw_breakpoint userland interface Roland McGrath
2011-02-10 21:03         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-10 21:14           ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-11 20:17             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-10 20:00 ` ptrace improvement: PTRACE_O_INHERIT Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-11 19:24   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-11 20:46     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-12  0:59       ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-12 19:11         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-14 19:31           ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-14 19:46             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-15  0:36               ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-15 13:16                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-15 21:43                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-15 21:56                     ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 19:42                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 19:45                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:09                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:16                             ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-19 19:48                             ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-19 20:37                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-20  8:18                                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-20 21:05                                   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2011-02-21 19:54                                 ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-22 19:39                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-22 20:49                                     ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-22 21:10                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-22 22:16                                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-21 19:44                               ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-15 22:02                     ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 16:02                       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-16 18:28                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:00                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:07                             ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:32                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 19:48                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:02                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:15                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:31                             ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 21:04                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 21:51                                 ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 19:38                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 19:40                       ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-15 22:17                   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:48                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 11:31 ` ptrace improvement ideas (QPassSignals) Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-16 18:36   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:21     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-18 20:24       ` Oleg Nesterov

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20110220205707.GA4894@redhat.com \
    --to=oleg@redhat.com \
    --cc=archer@sourceware.org \
    --cc=jan.kratochvil@redhat.com \
    --cc=roland@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).