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* Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
@ 2020-06-19  3:33 My Name
  2020-06-19  6:55 ` Brian Inglis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: My Name @ 2020-06-19  3:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

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I found an apparent dependency problem in Cygwin, and I'm not enough of a
Cygwin expert to know whether the bug is in Cygwin or Bazaar (Package
"bzr"); but if I had to guess, I'd guess it's in Cygwin, and I've already
reported the issue to the Bazaar forum.

In summary, after I installed Cygwin and Cygwin-Package "bzr", bzr failed
as it attempted to execute "python27". A detailed description of the issue,
including input and output from several tests I ran, and including the
solution posted by someone else (solution = install Cygwin-Package
"python27") is here, https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/691381,
and it's rather concise so I'll end here and refer you to that thread.

Per the directions here, https://cygwin.com/problems.html, I'm
email-attaching the output from "cygcheck -s -v -r".

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Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Fri Jun 19 04:06:27 2020

Windows 10 Home Ver 10.0 Build 18363 

Path:	C:\cygwin64\usr\local\bin
	C:\cygwin64\bin
	C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\iCLS Client
	C:\Program Files\Intel\iCLS Client
	C:\WINDOWS\system32
	C:\WINDOWS
	C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
	C:\WINDOWS\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0
	C:\WINDOWS\System32\OpenSSH
	C:\Program Files\Intel\WiFi\bin
	C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intel\WirelessCommon
	C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\DAL
	C:\Program Files\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\DAL
	C:\Users\pafh2\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps
	C:\Program Files\Maple 2018\bin.X86_64_WINDOWS
	C:\cygwin64\lib\lapack
	.
	C:\Program Files\Wolfram Research\Mathematica\11.1

Output from C:\cygwin64\bin\id.exe
UID: 197609(pafh2)
GID: 197609(pafh2)
197609(pafh2)
401408(Medium Mandatory Level)
545(Users)
4(INTERACTIVE)
66049(CONSOLE LOGON)
11(Authenticated Users)
15(This Organization)
68519(MicrosoftAccount+pafh2012@yahoo.com)
113(Local account)
4095(CurrentSession)
66048(LOCAL)
262180(Cloud Account Authentication)

SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

USER = 'pafh2'
PWD = '/cygdrive/c/Users/pafh2/OneDrive/dev/reverb'
HOME = '/cygdrive/c/Users/pafh2/OneDrive'

USERDOMAIN = 'LAPTOP-2018'
OS = 'Windows_NT'
COMMONPROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files'
PROCESSOR_LEVEL = '6'
PSModulePath = 'C:\Program Files\WindowsPowerShell\Modules;C:\WINDOWS\system32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\Modules'
CommonProgramW6432 = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files'
CommonProgramFiles(x86) = 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files'
LANG = 'en_US.UTF-8'
TZ = 'America/Phoenix'
HOSTNAME = 'Laptop-2018'
PUBLIC = 'C:\Users\Public'
OLDPWD = '/cygdrive/c/Users/pafh2/OneDrive/dev/reverb/reverb2'
reaper = 'C:\Users\pafh2\AppData\Roaming\REAPER\Effects'
USERNAME = 'pafh2'
LOGONSERVER = '\\LAPTOP-2018'
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = 'AMD64'
LOCALAPPDATA = 'C:\Users\pafh2\AppData\Local'
COMPUTERNAME = 'LAPTOP-2018'
!:: = '::\'
SYSTEMDRIVE = 'C:'
USERPROFILE = 'C:\Users\pafh2'
PATHEXT = '.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.MSC'
SYSTEMROOT = 'C:\WINDOWS'
USERDOMAIN_ROAMINGPROFILE = 'LAPTOP-2018'
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = 'Intel64 Family 6 Model 142 Stepping 10, GenuineIntel'
OneDriveConsumer = 'C:\Users\pafh2\OneDrive'
TMP = '/tmp'
TERM_PROGRAM = 'mintty'
TERM_PROGRAM_VERSION = '3.1.8'
OneDrive = 'C:\Users\pafh2\OneDrive'
PROCESSOR_REVISION = '8e0a'
PROFILEREAD = 'true'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = '8'
ProgramW6432 = 'C:\Program Files'
COMSPEC = 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe'
APPDATA = 'C:\Users\pafh2\AppData\Roaming'
SHELL = '/bin/bash'
TERM = 'xterm'
WINDIR = 'C:\WINDOWS'
ProgramData = 'C:\ProgramData'
SHLVL = '1'
MINTTY_SHORTCUT = '/cygdrive/c/Users/pafh2/AppData/Roaming/Microsoft/Internet Explorer/Quick Launch/User Pinned/TaskBar/Cygwin64 Terminal.lnk'
PRINTER = 'Microsoft Print to PDF'
PROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files'
ALLUSERSPROFILE = 'C:\ProgramData'
TEMP = '/tmp'
DriverData = 'C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\DriverData'
SESSIONNAME = 'Console'
ProgramFiles(x86) = 'C:\Program Files (x86)'
PS1 = '\[\e]0;\w\a\]\n\[\e[1;32m\]\w\$ \[\e[33m\]\[\e[0m\]'
HOMEDRIVE = 'C:'
INFOPATH = '/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/info:/cygdrive/c/Users/pafh2/OneDrive/localTexInfo'
HOMEPATH = '\Users\pafh2'
ORIGINAL_PATH = '/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Intel/iCLS Client:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Intel/iCLS Client:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/WindowsPowerShell/v1.0:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/OpenSSH:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Intel/WiFi/bin:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Common Files/Intel/WirelessCommon:/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Intel/Intel(R) Management Engine Components/DAL:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Intel/Intel(R) Management Engine Components/DAL:/cygdrive/c/Users/pafh2/AppData/Local/Microsoft/WindowsApps:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Maple 2018/bin.X86_64_WINDOWS'
EXECIGNORE = '*.dll'
_ = '/usr/bin/cygcheck'

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin\Installations
  (default) = '\??\C:\cygwin64'
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AppContainer\Storage\microsoft.microsoftedge_8wekyb3d8bbwe\Children\001\Internet Explorer\DOMStorage\cygwin.com
  (default) = 0x00000000
  NumberOfSubdomains = 0x00000002
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AppContainer\Storage\microsoft.microsoftedge_8wekyb3d8bbwe\Children\001\Internet Explorer\DOMStorage\cygwin.org
  (default) = 0x00000000
  NumberOfSubdomains = 0x00000001
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AppContainer\Storage\microsoft.microsoftedge_8wekyb3d8bbwe\Children\001\Internet Explorer\EdpDomStorage\cygwin.com
  (default) = 0x00000000
  NumberOfSubdomains = 0x00000000
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AppContainer\Storage\microsoft.microsoftedge_8wekyb3d8bbwe\Children\001\Internet Explorer\EdpDomStorage\cygwin.org
  (default) = 0x00000000
  NumberOfSubdomains = 0x00000000
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\Installations
  (default) = '\??\C:\cygwin64'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\setup
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin64'

obcaseinsensitive set to 1

Cygwin installations found in the registry:
  System: Key: e022582115c10879 Path: C:\cygwin64
  User:   Key: e022582115c10879 Path: C:\cygwin64

c:  hd  NTFS    227807Mb  27% CP CS UN PA FC    QU  
d:  hd  NTFS   3815429Mb  80% CP CS UN PA FC    QU  

C:\cygwin64      /          system  binary,auto
C:\cygwin64\bin  /usr/bin   system  binary,auto
C:\cygwin64\lib  /usr/lib   system  binary,auto
cygdrive prefix  /cygdrive  user    binary,posix=0,auto

Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\awk
 -> C:\cygwin64\bin\gawk.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\bash.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\certutil.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\clinfo.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comp.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\convert.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\cp.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\cpp.exe
Not Found: crontab
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\curl.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\expand.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\expand.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\expand.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\expand.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\find.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\find.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\find.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\find.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ftp.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\gcc.exe
Not Found: gdb
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\grep.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\hostname.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hostname.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\hostname.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\hostname.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\kill.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\klist.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ld.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ls.exe
Not Found: make
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\mv.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nslookup.exe
Not Found: patch
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\perl.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\replace.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\rm.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sed.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sh.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\shutdown.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sort.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\sort.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\sort.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\sort.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\System32\OpenSSH\ssh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\tar.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\tar.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\tar.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\tar.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\test.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\timeout.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\timeout.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\timeout.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\timeout.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\vi.exe
Not Found: vim
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\whoami.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\whoami.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\whoami.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\whoami.exe

   38k 2016/03/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygamd-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygamd-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2016-03-11 10:14
   39k 2016/09/19 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygargp-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygargp-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2016-09-19 02:13
  297k 2019/12/16 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygarpack-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygarpack-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-12-16 20:43
  616k 2019/12/26 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygaspell-15.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygaspell-15.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-12-26 10:12
  118k 2018/02/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygatk-1.0-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygatk-1.0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-02-11 23:28
  165k 2018/02/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygatk-bridge-2.0-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygatk-bridge-2.0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-02-11 23:40
   29k 2020/04/16 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygatomic-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygatomic-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-04-16 00:49
  152k 2018/02/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygatspi-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygatspi-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-02-11 23:33
   19k 2018/12/20 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygattr-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygattr-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-12-20 09:48
  188k 2018/09/10 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygautotrace-3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygautotrace-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-09-10 13:23
18953k 2020/03/13 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygblas-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygblas-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-03-14 00:13
  254k 2020/03/31 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygblkid-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygblkid-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-03-28 06:22
  129k 2019/05/13 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygbrotlicommon-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygbrotlicommon-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-05-13 02:33
   48k 2019/05/13 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygbrotlidec-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygbrotlidec-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-05-13 02:33
   13k 2016/03/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygbtf-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygbtf-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2016-03-11 11:53
   66k 2019/07/21 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-07-22 00:05
 1087k 2019/09/16 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcairo-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcairo-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-09-16 02:42
   27k 2019/09/16 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcairo-gobject-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcairo-gobject-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-09-16 02:43
  120k 2019/09/16 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcairo-script-interpreter-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcairo-script-interpreter-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-09-16 02:43
   41k 2016/03/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcamd-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcamd-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2016-03-11 10:21
   41k 2016/03/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygccolamd-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygccolamd-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2016-03-11 10:39
  882k 2016/03/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcholmod-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcholmod-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2016-03-11 12:03
   28k 2016/03/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcolamd-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcolamd-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2016-03-11 10:18
   13k 2019/01/02 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcom_err-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcom_err-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-01-02 02:39
  203k 2017/04/25 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcroco-0.6-3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcroco-0.6-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-04-25 17:03
   39k 2017/09/03 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcrypt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcrypt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-03 08:18
  194k 2019/04/03 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcrypt-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcrypt-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-04-03 22:05
 2363k 2019/09/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcrypto-1.0.0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcrypto-1.0.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-09-11 18:40
 2451k 2020/04/08 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcrypto-1.1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcrypto-1.1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-04-08 12:11
  554k 2019/09/18 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcurl-4.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcurl-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-09-18 02:12
  160k 2016/03/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcxsparse-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcxsparse-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2016-03-11 11:04
   24k 2014/11/12 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygdatrie-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygdatrie-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2014-11-12 07:24
 1552k 2017/09/28 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygdb-5.3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygdb-5.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-28 20:05
  267k 2017/08/10 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygdbus-1-3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygdbus-1-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-08-10 06:10
  119k 2017/09/28 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygdb_cxx-5.3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygdb_cxx-5.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-28 20:06
  569k 2017/09/28 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygdb_sql-5.3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygdb_sql-5.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-28 20:06
  154k 2013/10/20 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygedit-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygedit-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-10-20 21:56
  157k 2018/09/30 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygEMF-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygEMF-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-09-30 22:42
  679k 2017/09/04 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygepoxy-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygepoxy-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-04 22:23
  181k 2018/09/27 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygexpat-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygexpat-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-09-27 18:30
   30k 2014/10/14 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfam-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfam-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2014-10-14 21:33
  353k 2020/03/31 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfdisk-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfdisk-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-03-28 06:23
   27k 2015/11/17 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygffi-6.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygffi-6.dll" v0.0 ts=2015-11-17 22:14
 2158k 2018/06/09 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfftw3-3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfftw3-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-06-09 21:10
 2188k 2018/06/09 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfftw3f-3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfftw3f-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-06-09 20:53
   25k 2018/06/09 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfftw3f_threads-3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfftw3f_threads-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-06-09 20:54
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                  "cygfftw3l-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-06-09 21:50
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                  "cygfftw3l_threads-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-06-09 21:51
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                  "cygfftw3_threads-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-06-09 21:10
  473k 2017/01/04 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygFLAC-8.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygFLAC-8.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-01-04 23:19
  969k 2017/06/20 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfltk-1.3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfltk-1.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-06-20 07:37
   25k 2017/06/20 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfltk_forms-1.3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfltk_forms-1.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-06-20 07:37
   93k 2017/06/20 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfltk_gl-1.3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfltk_gl-1.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-06-20 07:37
   48k 2017/06/20 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfltk_images-1.3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfltk_images-1.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-06-20 07:37
  247k 2019/07/28 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfontconfig-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfontconfig-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-07-29 00:52
   56k 2019/07/28 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygformw-10.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygformw-10.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-07-28 17:33
  545k 2015/01/15 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfpx-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfpx-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2015-01-15 12:50
  699k 2020/05/12 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfreetype-6.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfreetype-6.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-05-12 20:01
   73k 2020/04/16 C:\cygwin64\bin\cyggcc_s-seh-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cyggcc_s-seh-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-04-15 22:57
   46k 2019/07/10 C:\cygwin64\bin\cyggdbm-4.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
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Cygwin Package Information
Last downloaded files to: D:\temp while laptop is full\Documents
Last downloaded files from: http://cygwin.mirror.constant.com/

Package                       Version                    Status
_autorebase                   001007-1                   OK
adwaita-icon-theme            3.26.1-1                   OK
alternatives                  1.3.30c-10                 OK
aspell                        0.60.8-1                   OK
aspell-en                     2017.08.24.0-1             OK
at-spi2-core                  2.26.2-1                   OK
base-cygwin                   3.8-1                      OK
base-files                    4.3-2                      OK
bash                          4.4.12-3                   OK
binutils                      2.34+1git.de9c1b7cfe-1     OK
bzip2                         1.0.8-1                    OK
bzr                           2.7.0+bzr6622-1            OK
ca-certificates               2.40-1                     OK
coreutils                     8.26-2                     OK
Empty package crypt
crypt                         2.1-1                      OK
crypto-policies               20190218-1                 OK
cygutils                      1.4.16-2                   OK
cygwin                        3.1.5-1                    OK
cygwin-devel                  3.1.5-1                    OK
dash                          0.5.9.1-1                  OK
dconf-service                 0.26.1-1                   OK
dejavu-fonts                  2.37-1                     OK
desktop-file-utils            0.23-1                     OK
diffutils                     3.5-2                      OK
dri-drivers                   19.1.6-1                   OK
editrights                    1.03-1                     OK
emacs-common                  26.3-2                     OK
emacs-w32                     26.3-2                     OK
file                          5.32-1                     OK
findutils                     4.6.0-1                    OK
gamin                         0.1.10-15                  OK
gawk                          5.1.0-1                    OK
gcc-core                      9.3.0-2                    OK
gcc-fortran                   9.3.0-2                    OK
gdk-pixbuf2.0-svg             2.40.20-1                  OK
getent                        2.18.90-4                  OK
glib2.0-networking            2.54.1-1                   OK
grep                          3.0-2                      OK
groff                         1.22.4-1                   OK
gsettings-desktop-schemas     3.24.1-1                   OK
gtk-update-icon-cache         3.22.28-1                  OK
gzip                          1.8-1                      OK
hicolor-icon-theme            0.15-1                     OK
hostname                      3.13-1                     OK
info                          6.7-1                      OK
ipc-utils                     1.0-2                      OK
less                          551-1                      OK
libamd1                       2.4.4-1                    OK
libargp                       20110921-3                 OK
libarpack0                    3.7.0-1                    OK
libaspell15                   0.60.8-1                   OK
libatk-bridge2.0_0            2.26.1-1                   OK
libatk1.0_0                   2.26.1-1                   OK
libatomic1                    9.3.0-2                    OK
libatspi0                     2.26.2-1                   OK
libattr1                      2.4.48-2                   OK
libautotrace3                 0.31.1-19                  OK
libblkid1                     2.33.1-2                   OK
libbrotlicommon1              1.0.7-1                    OK
libbrotlidec1                 1.0.7-1                    OK
libbtf0                       1.2.4-1                    OK
libbz2_1                      1.0.8-1                    OK
libcairo2                     1.16.0-1                   OK
libcamd1                      2.4.4-1                    OK
libccolamd1                   2.9.4-1                    OK
libcholmod1                   3.0.9-1                    OK
libcolamd1                    2.9.4-1                    OK
libcom_err2                   1.44.5-1                   OK
libcroco0.6_3                 0.6.12-1                   OK
libcrypt0                     2.1-1                      OK
libcrypt2                     4.4.4-1                    OK
libcurl4                      7.66.0-1                   OK
libcxsparse0                  3.1.7-1                    OK
libdatrie1                    0.2.8-1                    OK
libdb5.3                      5.3.28-2                   OK
libdbus1_3                    1.10.22-1                  OK
libedit0                      20130712-1                 OK
libEMF1                       1.0.9-1                    OK
libepoxy0                     1.4.3-1                    OK
libexpat1                     2.2.6-1                    OK
libfam0                       0.1.10-15                  OK
libfdisk1                     2.33.1-2                   OK
libffi6                       3.2.1-2                    OK
libfftw3_3                    3.3.8-1                    OK
libFLAC8                      1.3.2-1                    OK
libfltk1.3                    1.3.4-1                    OK
libfontconfig-common          2.13.1-1                   OK
libfontconfig1                2.13.1-1                   OK
libfpx1                       1.3.1.4-1                  OK
libfreetype6                  2.10.2-1                   OK
libgcc1                       9.3.0-2                    OK
libgdbm4                      1.13-1                     OK
libgdbm6                      1.18.1-1                   OK
libgdbm_compat4               1.18.1-1                   OK
libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0            2.36.11-1                  OK
libgfortran4                  7.4.0-1                    OK
libgfortran5                  9.3.0-2                    OK
libgif7                       5.1.4-1                    OK
libGL1                        19.1.6-1                   OK
libgl2ps1                     1.4.1-2                    OK
libglapi0                     19.1.6-1                   OK
libglib2.0_0                  2.54.3-1                   OK
libglpk40                     4.65-1                     OK
libGLU1                       9.0.1-1                    OK
libgmp10                      6.2.0-2                    OK
libgnutls30                   3.6.9-1                    OK
libgomp1                      9.3.0-2                    OK
libGraphicsMagick++12         1.3.35-1                   OK
libGraphicsMagick3            1.3.35-1                   OK
libgraphite2_3                1.3.14-1                   OK
libgs9                        9.52-2                     OK
libgsm1                       1.0.17-1                   OK
libgssapi_krb5_2              1.15.2-2                   OK
libgtk3_0                     3.22.28-1                  OK
libharfbuzz0                  2.6.6-1                    OK
libhdf5_103                   1.10.6-1                   OK
libhogweed4                   3.4.1-1                    OK
libICE6                       1.0.10-1                   OK
libiconv                      1.14-3                     OK
libiconv2                     1.14-3                     OK
libicu61                      61.1-1                     OK
libidn11                      1.33-1                     OK
libidn2_0                     2.2.0-1                    OK
libintl8                      0.19.8.1-2                 OK
libiodbc2                     3.52.8-2                   OK
libisl22                      0.22.1-2                   OK
libjasper4                    2.0.14-1                   OK
libjbig2                      2.0-14                     OK
libjpeg8                      1.5.3-1                    OK
libjson-glib1.0_0             1.4.2-1                    OK
libk5crypto3                  1.15.2-2                   OK
libklu1                       1.3.6-1                    OK
libkrb5_3                     1.15.2-2                   OK
libkrb5support0               1.15.2-2                   OK
liblapack0                    3.9.0-2                    OK
liblcms2_2                    2.11-1                     OK
libllvm8                      8.0.1-1                    OK
libltdl7                      2.4.6-7                    OK
liblzma5                      5.2.4-1                    OK
liblzo2_2                     2.10-1                     OK
libMagickC++6_8               6.9.10.11-2                OK
libMagickCore6_6              6.9.10.11-2                OK
libMagickWand6_6              6.9.10.11-2                OK
libmailutils-sieve-extensions 3.5-1                      OK
libmailutils5                 3.5-1                      OK
libmetis0                     5.1.0-1                    OK
libming1                      0.4.8-3                    OK
libmpc3                       1.1.0-1                    OK
libmpfr6                      4.0.2-2p6                  OK
libmysqlclient18              10.1.30-1                  OK
libncursesw10                 6.1-1.20190727             OK
libnettle6                    3.4.1-1                    OK
libnghttp2_14                 1.37.0-1                   OK
libogg0                       1.3.1-1                    OK
libopenblas                   0.3.9-1                    OK
libopenldap2_4_2              2.4.50-1                   OK
libp11-kit0                   0.23.20-1                  OK
libpango1.0_0                 1.40.14-1                  OK
libpaper-common               1.1.28-1                   OK
libpaper1                     1.1.28-1                   OK
libpcre1                      8.44-1                     OK
libpcre2_16_0                 10.34-1                    OK
libpipeline1                  1.5.1-1                    OK
libpixman1_0                  0.38.4-1                   OK
libpkgconf3                   1.6.3-1                    OK
libplotter2                   2.6-5                      OK
libpng16                      1.6.37-1                   OK
libpopt-common                1.16-2                     OK
libpopt0                      1.16-2                     OK
libportaudio2                 19.20140130-3              OK
libpq5                        12.2-1                     OK
libproxy1                     0.4.14-2                   OK
libpsl5                       0.21.0-1                   OK
libpstoedit0                  3.73-1                     OK
libqhull_7                    2019.1-1                   OK
libqrupdate0                  1.1.2-3                    OK
Empty package libqscintilla2-qt5-common
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libqscintilla2_qt5-common     2.10.2-1                   OK
libqscintilla2_qt5_13         2.10.2-1                   OK
libQt5Core5                   5.9.4-2                    OK
libQt5Gui5                    5.9.4-2                    OK
libQt5Help5                   5.9.4-1                    OK
libQt5Sql5                    5.9.4-2                    OK
libquadmath0                  9.3.0-2                    OK
libreadline7                  7.0.3-3                    OK
librest0.7_0                  0.8.1-1                    OK
librsvg2_2                    2.40.20-1                  OK
libsasl2_3                    2.1.27-1                   OK
libsigsegv2                   2.10-2                     OK
libSM6                        1.2.3-1                    OK
libsmartcols1                 2.33.1-2                   OK
libsndfile1                   1.0.28-2                   OK
libsoup-gnome2.4_1            2.60.3-1                   OK
libsoup2.4_1                  2.60.3-1                   OK
libsqlite3_0                  3.30.0-1                   OK
libssh-common                 0.8.7-1                    OK
libssh4                       0.8.7-1                    OK
libssl1.0                     1.0.2t-1                   OK
libssl1.1                     1.1.1f-1                   OK
libstdc++6                    9.3.0-2                    OK
libsuitesparseconfig1         4.5.1-1                    OK
libsundials_ida2              2.7.0-1                    OK
libsundials_nvecserial2       2.7.0-1                    OK
libsybdb5                     1.00.37-1                  OK
libtasn1_6                    4.14-1                     OK
libthai0                      0.1.26-1                   OK
libtiff6                      4.0.9-1                    OK
libumfpack1                   5.7.4-1                    OK
libunistring2                 0.9.10-1                   OK
libuuid-devel                 2.33.1-2                   OK
libuuid1                      2.33.1-2                   OK
libvorbis                     1.3.6-1                    OK
libvorbis0                    1.3.6-1                    OK
libvorbisenc2                 1.3.6-1                    OK
libwebp7                      0.6.1-2                    OK
libwebpmux3                   0.6.1-2                    OK
libX11-xcb1                   1.6.9-1                    OK
libX11_6                      1.6.9-1                    OK
libXau6                       1.0.9-1                    OK
libXaw7                       1.0.13-1                   OK
libxcb-glx0                   1.14-1                     OK
libxcb-icccm4                 0.4.1-1                    OK
libxcb-image0                 0.4.0-1                    OK
libxcb-keysyms1               0.4.0-1                    OK
libxcb-randr0                 1.14-1                     OK
libxcb-render-util0           0.3.9-1                    OK
libxcb-render0                1.14-1                     OK
libxcb-shape0                 1.14-1                     OK
libxcb-shm0                   1.14-1                     OK
libxcb-sync1                  1.14-1                     OK
libxcb-util1                  0.4.0-1                    OK
libxcb-xfixes0                1.14-1                     OK
libxcb-xinerama0              1.14-1                     OK
libxcb-xkb1                   1.14-1                     OK
libxcb1                       1.14-1                     OK
libXcomposite1                0.4.5-1                    OK
libXcursor1                   1.2.0-1                    OK
libXdamage1                   1.1.5-1                    OK
libXdmcp6                     1.1.3-1                    OK
libXext6                      1.3.4-1                    OK
libXfixes3                    5.0.3-1                    OK
libXft2                       2.3.3-1                    OK
libXi6                        1.7.10-1                   OK
libXinerama1                  1.1.4-1                    OK
libxkbcommon0                 0.10.0-1                   OK
libxml2                       2.9.9-2                    OK
libXmu6                       1.1.3-1                    OK
libXpm-noX_4                  3.5.12-1                   OK
libXpm4                       3.5.13-1                   OK
libXrandr2                    1.5.2-1                    OK
libXrender1                   0.9.10-1                   OK
libXt6                        1.2.0-1                    OK
libXtst6                      1.2.3-1                    OK
libzip5                       1.5.1-1                    OK
login                         1.13-1                     OK
mailutils                     3.5-1                      OK
man-db                        2.7.6.1-1                  OK
mariadb-common                3.0.9-1                    OK
mintty                        3.1.8-1                    OK
mysql-common                  10.3.14-1                  OK
ncurses                       6.1-1.20190727             OK
octave                        5.2.0-1                    OK
openssl                       1.1.1f-1                   OK
p11-kit                       0.23.20-1                  OK
p11-kit-trust                 0.23.20-1                  OK
perl_base                     5.30.3-1                   OK
pkg-config                    1.6.3-1                    OK
pkgconf                       1.6.3-1                    OK
publicsuffix-list-dafsa       20200326-1                 OK
python-pip-wheel              19.2.3-1                   OK
python-setuptools-wheel       41.2.0-1                   OK
python2                       2.7.18-1                   OK
python27                      2.7.18-1                   OK
python37                      3.7.7-1                    OK
python37-numpy                1.16.2-1                   OK
python37-pip                  20.1.1-1                   OK
python37-setuptools           46.4.0-1                   OK
python38                      3.8.3-1                    OK
python38-pip                  20.1.1-1                   OK
python38-setuptools           46.4.0-1                   OK
rebase                        4.4.4-1                    OK
run                           1.3.4-2                    OK
sed                           4.4-1                      OK
shared-mime-info              1.8-1                      OK
tar                           1.29-1                     OK
terminfo                      6.1-1.20190727             OK
terminfo-extra                6.1-1.20190727             OK
tzcode                        2019c-1                    OK
tzdata                        2020a-1                    OK
util-linux                    2.33.1-2                   OK
vim-minimal                   8.2.0486-1                 OK
w32api-headers                7.0.0-1                    OK
w32api-runtime                7.0.0-1                    OK
which                         2.20-2                     OK
windows-default-manifest      6.4-1                      OK
xkeyboard-config              2.29-1                     OK
xz                            5.2.4-1                    OK
zlib0                         1.2.11-1                   OK
Use -h to see help about each section

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* Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-19  3:33 Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list My Name
@ 2020-06-19  6:55 ` Brian Inglis
  2020-06-19  9:39   ` marco atzeri
  2020-06-20 14:41   ` Jon Turney
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2020-06-19  6:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 2020-06-18 21:33, My Name via Cygwin wrote:
> I found an apparent dependency problem in Cygwin, and I'm not enough of a
> Cygwin expert to know whether the bug is in Cygwin or Bazaar (Package
> "bzr"); but if I had to guess, I'd guess it's in Cygwin, and I've already
> reported the issue to the Bazaar forum.
> 
> In summary, after I installed Cygwin and Cygwin-Package "bzr", bzr failed
> as it attempted to execute "python27". A detailed description of the issue,
> including input and output from several tests I ran, and including the
> solution posted by someone else (solution = install Cygwin-Package
> "python27") is here, https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/691381,
> and it's rather concise so I'll end here and refer you to that thread.
> 
> Per the directions here, https://cygwin.com/problems.html, I'm
> email-attaching the output from "cygcheck -s -v -r".

Looks like cygport, calm, and setup disagree about install dependencies; from
setup.ini:

bzr
requires: python
depends2: python

python
requires: python2
depends2:

python2
requires: python27
depends2:

so although python requires python2, and python2 requires python27, the (newer)
depends2 entries are not the same and are empty, so setup ignores requires and
does not install the dependency.

In these cases, either depends2 should be the same as requires, or depends2
should be omitted, and setup should install requires.

-- 
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains
too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised.
[Data in IEC units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread

* Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-19  6:55 ` Brian Inglis
@ 2020-06-19  9:39   ` marco atzeri
  2020-06-20 14:41   ` Jon Turney
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: marco atzeri @ 2020-06-19  9:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Cygwin Mailing List

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 8:56 AM Brian Inglis wrote:
>
> On 2020-06-18 21:33, My Name via Cygwin wrote:
> > I found an apparent dependency problem in Cygwin, and I'm not enough of a
> > Cygwin expert to know whether the bug is in Cygwin or Bazaar (Package
> > "bzr"); but if I had to guess, I'd guess it's in Cygwin, and I've already
> > reported the issue to the Bazaar forum.
> >
> > In summary, after I installed Cygwin and Cygwin-Package "bzr", bzr failed
> > as it attempted to execute "python27". A detailed description of the issue,
> > including input and output from several tests I ran, and including the
> > solution posted by someone else (solution = install Cygwin-Package
> > "python27") is here, https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/691381,
> > and it's rather concise so I'll end here and refer you to that thread.
> >
> > Per the directions here, https://cygwin.com/problems.html, I'm
> > email-attaching the output from "cygcheck -s -v -r".
>
> Looks like cygport, calm, and setup disagree about install dependencies; from
> setup.ini:
>
> bzr
> requires: python
> depends2: python
>
> python
> requires: python2
> depends2:
>
> python2
> requires: python27
> depends2:
>
> so although python requires python2, and python2 requires python27, the (newer)
> depends2 entries are not the same and are empty, so setup ignores requires and
> does not install the dependency.
>
> In these cases, either depends2 should be the same as requires, or depends2
> should be omitted, and setup should install requires.
>

it seems a glitch of the last packing of python2.
I will review the dependency and re upload them in the weeked

Regards
Marco

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* Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-19  6:55 ` Brian Inglis
  2020-06-19  9:39   ` marco atzeri
@ 2020-06-20 14:41   ` Jon Turney
  2020-06-20 14:44     ` Marco Atzeri
  2020-06-21 16:15     ` Brian Inglis
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jon Turney @ 2020-06-20 14:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Cygwin Mailing List

On 19/06/2020 07:55, Brian Inglis wrote:
> 
> Looks like cygport, calm, and setup disagree about install dependencies; from
> setup.ini:
> 
> bzr
> requires: python
> depends2: python
> 
> python
> requires: python2
> depends2:
> 
> python2
> requires: python27
> depends2:
> 
> so although python requires python2, and python2 requires python27, the (newer)
> depends2 entries are not the same and are empty, so setup ignores requires and
> does not install the dependency.
> 
> In these cases, either depends2 should be the same as requires, or depends2
> should be omitted, and setup should install requires.

This analysis is not complete or correct because it doesn't take 
'obsoletes:' into account. (See [1] for the technical details)

It does seem that things aren't working as intended, though.

[1] 
https://sourceware.org/git/?p=cygwin-apps/calm.git;a=commitdiff;h=d75abceedb46749982669236c5c102796a1fbfb1;hp=f92ad1d5c292ed54e7a62f5c52280efab8267f37

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* Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-20 14:41   ` Jon Turney
@ 2020-06-20 14:44     ` Marco Atzeri
  2020-06-21 16:15     ` Brian Inglis
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Marco Atzeri @ 2020-06-20 14:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 20.06.2020 16:41, Jon Turney wrote:
> On 19/06/2020 07:55, Brian Inglis wrote:
>>
>> Looks like cygport, calm, and setup disagree about install 
>> dependencies; from
>> setup.ini:
>>
>> bzr
>> requires: python
>> depends2: python
>>
>> python
>> requires: python2
>> depends2:
>>
>> python2
>> requires: python27
>> depends2:
>>
>> so although python requires python2, and python2 requires python27, 
>> the (newer)
>> depends2 entries are not the same and are empty, so setup ignores 
>> requires and
>> does not install the dependency.
>>
>> In these cases, either depends2 should be the same as requires, or 
>> depends2
>> should be omitted, and setup should install requires.
> 
> This analysis is not complete or correct because it doesn't take 
> 'obsoletes:' into account. (See [1] for the technical details)
> 
> It does seem that things aren't working as intended, though.
> 
> [1] 
> https://sourceware.org/git/?p=cygwin-apps/calm.git;a=commitdiff;h=d75abceedb46749982669236c5c102796a1fbfb1;hp=f92ad1d5c292ed54e7a62f5c52280efab8267f37 
> 
> -- 

I think I solved the issue re-uploading all the python2 hints
for both arch.

Regards
Marco


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* Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-20 14:41   ` Jon Turney
  2020-06-20 14:44     ` Marco Atzeri
@ 2020-06-21 16:15     ` Brian Inglis
  2020-06-21 18:04       ` My Name
  2020-06-24 21:34       ` Jon Turney
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2020-06-21 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Cygwin Mailing List

On 2020-06-20 08:41, Jon Turney wrote:
> On 19/06/2020 07:55, Brian Inglis wrote:
> This analysis is not complete or correct because it doesn't take 'obsoletes:'
> into account:
> https://sourceware.org/git/?p=cygwin-apps/calm.git;a=commitdiff;h=d75abceedb46749982669236c5c102796a1fbfb1;hp=f92ad1d5c292ed54e7a62f5c52280efab8267f37
> It does seem that things aren't working as intended, though.

So does that obsoletes: mean something different than category: _obsoletes,
which I view as a (Debian-like) virtual package declaration?
Are obsoletes and pre-depends documented anywhere else (and any other new
keywords)?

-- 
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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* Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-21 16:15     ` Brian Inglis
@ 2020-06-21 18:04       ` My Name
  2020-06-22  2:21         ` Allen Hewes
  2020-06-24 21:34       ` Jon Turney
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: My Name @ 2020-06-21 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brian.Inglis; +Cc: The Cygwin Mailing List

This is mostly over my head, so I'm sorry if my comment here is irrelevant,
but I'll point out in case anyone here doesn't know, Python 3 doesn't make
Python 2 obsolete. They are somewhat incompatible. Python 2 source doesn't
always run in Python 3 without extensive modification. If there's any
message you all would like me to deliver to the Bazaar (bzr) forum, I will;
but I'm not a Bazaar developer either, just a user.

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 9:16 AM Brian Inglis <
Brian.Inglis@systematicsw.ab.ca> wrote:

> On 2020-06-20 08:41, Jon Turney wrote:
> > On 19/06/2020 07:55, Brian Inglis wrote:
> > This analysis is not complete or correct because it doesn't take
> 'obsoletes:'
> > into account:
> >
> https://sourceware.org/git/?p=cygwin-apps/calm.git;a=commitdiff;h=d75abceedb46749982669236c5c102796a1fbfb1;hp=f92ad1d5c292ed54e7a62f5c52280efab8267f37
> > It does seem that things aren't working as intended, though.
>
> So does that obsoletes: mean something different than category: _obsoletes,
> which I view as a (Debian-like) virtual package declaration?
> Are obsoletes and pre-depends documented anywhere else (and any other new
> keywords)?
>
> --
> Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
>
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> too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised.
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* RE: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-21 18:04       ` My Name
@ 2020-06-22  2:21         ` Allen Hewes
  2020-06-22  2:45           ` My Name
  2020-06-22  5:20           ` Marco Atzeri
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Allen Hewes @ 2020-06-22  2:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cygwin <cygwin-bounces@cygwin.com> On Behalf Of My Name via
> Cygwin
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:04 PM
> To: Brian.Inglis@systematicsw.ab.ca
> Cc: The Cygwin Mailing List <cygwin@cygwin.com>
> Subject: Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2)
> Package "bzr" dependency-list
>
> This is mostly over my head, so I'm sorry if my comment here is irrelevant,
> but I'll point out in case anyone here doesn't know, Python 3 doesn't make
> Python 2 obsolete. They are somewhat incompatible. Python 2 source
> doesn't always run in Python 3 without extensive modification. If there's any
> message you all would like me to deliver to the Bazaar (bzr) forum, I will; but
> I'm not a Bazaar developer either, just a user.
>

Yep, I am in agreement here. I don't understand why Python 2 gets attention from Cygwin maintainers. I have a found a few packages that are "linked" (e.g. they have dependencies on either the Python27 or Python2/Python meta-package), which would explain this to some degree. Usually, it's just a rebuild (e.g. a re-configure) of the depending-ee...

I can't get rid of three Python 2.7 packages: python27, python27-pip, python27-setuptools. I switched over to using alternatives (sometime ago) so that I can "stop" the craziness of the meta-package "python". I don't want Python 2 as my 'python'.

The need to have two Pythons installed at the same time seems to be over. Shouldn't this remove the need to have meta-packages?

Cygiwn isn't alone is keeping Python 2 alive.

/allen

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* Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-22  2:21         ` Allen Hewes
@ 2020-06-22  2:45           ` My Name
       [not found]             ` <MN2PR17MB39993A62062F020FE99CA0B6B8970@MN2PR17MB3999.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
  2020-06-22  5:20           ` Marco Atzeri
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: My Name @ 2020-06-22  2:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Allen Hewes; +Cc: cygwin

Bazaar depends on python2, at least according to this person's suggestion:

> Bazaar doesn't support python3, it only supports python2.7. I'm guessing

(https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/691381)

I for one want to continue using Bazaar in Cygwin, so I'm grateful that
python2 is at least an option in Cygwin. Bazaar is free and open-source,
and I'm not a contributor, so I'm in no position to tell them to update
their software so that it depends on python3 only.

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 7:21 PM Allen Hewes via Cygwin <cygwin@cygwin.com>
wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cygwin <cygwin-bounces@cygwin.com> On Behalf Of My Name via
> > Cygwin
> > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:04 PM
> > To: Brian.Inglis@systematicsw.ab.ca
> > Cc: The Cygwin Mailing List <cygwin@cygwin.com>
> > Subject: Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or
> (2)
> > Package "bzr" dependency-list
> >
> > This is mostly over my head, so I'm sorry if my comment here is
> irrelevant,
> > but I'll point out in case anyone here doesn't know, Python 3 doesn't
> make
> > Python 2 obsolete. They are somewhat incompatible. Python 2 source
> > doesn't always run in Python 3 without extensive modification. If
> there's any
> > message you all would like me to deliver to the Bazaar (bzr) forum, I
> will; but
> > I'm not a Bazaar developer either, just a user.
> >
>
> Yep, I am in agreement here. I don't understand why Python 2 gets
> attention from Cygwin maintainers. I have a found a few packages that are
> "linked" (e.g. they have dependencies on either the Python27 or
> Python2/Python meta-package), which would explain this to some degree.
> Usually, it's just a rebuild (e.g. a re-configure) of the depending-ee...
>
> I can't get rid of three Python 2.7 packages: python27, python27-pip,
> python27-setuptools. I switched over to using alternatives (sometime ago)
> so that I can "stop" the craziness of the meta-package "python". I don't
> want Python 2 as my 'python'.
>
> The need to have two Pythons installed at the same time seems to be over.
> Shouldn't this remove the need to have meta-packages?
>
> Cygiwn isn't alone is keeping Python 2 alive.
>
> /allen
>
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* Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-22  2:21         ` Allen Hewes
  2020-06-22  2:45           ` My Name
@ 2020-06-22  5:20           ` Marco Atzeri
  2020-06-22  5:49             ` Allen Hewes
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Marco Atzeri @ 2020-06-22  5:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 22.06.2020 04:21, Allen Hewes via Cygwin wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cygwin <cygwin-bounces@cygwin.com> On Behalf Of My Name via
>> Cygwin
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:04 PM
>> To: Brian.Inglis@systematicsw.ab.ca
>> Cc: The Cygwin Mailing List <cygwin@cygwin.com>
>> Subject: Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2)
>> Package "bzr" dependency-list
>>
>> This is mostly over my head, so I'm sorry if my comment here is irrelevant,
>> but I'll point out in case anyone here doesn't know, Python 3 doesn't make
>> Python 2 obsolete. They are somewhat incompatible. Python 2 source
>> doesn't always run in Python 3 without extensive modification. If there's any
>> message you all would like me to deliver to the Bazaar (bzr) forum, I will; but
>> I'm not a Bazaar developer either, just a user.
>>
> 
> Yep, I am in agreement here. I don't understand why Python 2 gets attention from Cygwin maintainers. I have a found a few packages that are "linked" (e.g. they have dependencies on either the Python27 or Python2/Python meta-package), which would explain this to some degree. Usually, it's just a rebuild (e.g. a re-configure) of the depending-ee...
> 
> I can't get rid of three Python 2.7 packages: python27, python27-pip, python27-setuptools. I switched over to using alternatives (sometime ago) so that I can "stop" the craziness of the meta-package "python". I don't want Python 2 as my 'python'.
> 
> The need to have two Pythons installed at the same time seems to be over. Shouldn't this remove the need to have meta-packages?
> 
> Cygiwn isn't alone is keeping Python 2 alive.
> 
> /allen
> 

by default "python" is "python2" so anything calling python still 
requires python2, see:

https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/

and there are a lot of packages in cygwin doing it.

Packaging requires time and currently on python we are short of it.

I am moving to package all python-subpackages for 3.8 and
after we can look to move some packages from python2 (2.7)
to python 3 (target 3.8)

Regards
MArco



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* RE: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
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@ 2020-06-22  5:26                 ` Allen Hewes
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Allen Hewes @ 2020-06-22  5:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: My Name <mname989@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 12:34 AM
> To: Allen Hewes <allen@decisiv.com>
> Subject: Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or
> (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
>
> I'm intrigued, since you're the second person to recommend Breezy to
> me (the first being from the thread I cited previously). But I see
> it's not available via Cygwin Setup, and I got the idea that
> installing any software via pip for use in Cygwin is risky, because
> via pip, the software hasn't been ported for use in Cygwin, so there's
> no guarantee the software is compatible with Cygwin's quirks like, IIRC, symbolic links. Is there validity to my concern?
>

I think the person that suggested Breezy in your ticket was one of the authors of Bazaar.

Well, just because a Python package isn't available via Cygwin setup doesn't mean it's not compatible. There are many Python packages that aren't packaged by the platform/OS packager/vendor. It's this way for Linux also and Perl and Ruby.

Pip/PyPy/distuls/wheels are all methods of packaging and distributing Python packages to downstream end-users. I would say they predate Cygwin but Cygwin itself has very long teeth. It's been around for a very long time. If Cygwin folks weren't around or if none of them cared enough to create Python packages as Cygwin packages, Python packages would still exist and need a mechanism for deploy/install to end-users. This is what pip does for Python. There are also methods of keeping your pip installs from the platform/OS packaged ones.

There are circumstances which Python package authors don't consider Cygwin or their package is intended to target a specific OS/platform. I have found that this is the exception and not the rule. Generally, for my use cases (AWS), I use pip exclusively and don't want Cygwin's versions of Python packages. I prefer *not* to use them. I also use pipenv/virtualenv and friends. Keep in mind, this is what I do for myself and the folks I help.

So this isn't a black or white type of thing. Some of it is A Cygwin Thing (requires a POSIX layer), some of it is A Windows Thing (don't need a POSIX layer), some of if is end-user choice.

You can make a general assumption (uh-oh) that if the Python package requires or has a C (but could also be Python) based part to it, you may (or may not) have trouble with it via pip on Cygwin. Here again, "it just depends" and this isn't quantifiable. Generally, the Python packages that don't support Cygwin will include this in the error message during the pip install, this also is a "it just depends".

I think a lot of this depends on the effort to make the Python package run on the destination target, like Cygwin. Every platform/OS does things differently with linking, libraries, headers, object files, pathing.

For instance, I use mostly (not all) pure Python packages (88 right now) and I install and manage them all via pip/virtualenv and not Cygwin Setup.

> How backwards compatible is Breezy with Bazaar? Even if it would be
> good for me to switch to Breezy in the long run, I'm trying to finish
> some projects important to me, and now wouldn't be a good time for me
> to have to learn anything new about version control.
>

The link I proved suggested full backwards compatibility to Bazaar, but I don't use Bazaar or have ever used it. I (must) use git/GitHub Enterprise, I don't have a choice.

> I hadn't known 2020 was a special year for python2, but now I'm
> gathering that 2020 might mean something bad for python2.
>

Well, Python was supposed to be gone in Jan 2020 but they released 2.7.18[1]. 2.7.18 is supposed to be the last release again[1]. The Python project manages these types of thigs with PEPs. The one for Python 2.7 is PEP 0373[2].

> Thanks for giving me an alternative to consider. Last time I tried
> git, I wasn't a fan. Too complicated for a one-man, one-machine operation like mine.
>

Since you like Bazaar, I would take a serious look at Breezy when you have time.

/allen

[1] from https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-2718/, "Python 2.7.18 is the last release of Python 2."
[2] https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/


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* RE: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-22  5:20           ` Marco Atzeri
@ 2020-06-22  5:49             ` Allen Hewes
       [not found]               ` <CAGUd5DXo=Wu1jx64OkQbjHtvC_5gcaUJF6_mnL0YH=Xmhd_x6g@mail.gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Allen Hewes @ 2020-06-22  5:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin


>
> by default "python" is "python2" so anything calling python still requires
> python2, see:
>
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/
>
> and there are a lot of packages in cygwin doing it.
>
> Packaging requires time and currently on python we are short of it.
>
> I am moving to package all python-subpackages for 3.8 and after we can look
> to move some packages from python2 (2.7) to python 3 (target 3.8)
>

Thanks Marco. Yep, I know about the python/python2/python3 naming PEP. I just got frustrated a little and went full bore on making my "python" (and all his friends) mean "python3" (😊).

If/when Cygwin gets to Python3 clean, I'll revert my alternatives.

For me, I think there's a PostgreSQL contrib package that has a dependency on Python2, which is why I can't remove it (I _think_). But I suspect you would already have it in your list.

I have played around with packaging on Cygwin and I found it difficult and inconsistent. Meaning, if it was like koji/rpm, I would find it easier to contribute/participate. I lost arm wrestling matches with cygport and packages that don't cygport... then I got deterred...

I would like to pitch in. Is there beginner stuff? There's a different ML for packaging folks isn't there? I have used Cygwin daily for many years but I have found myself trying out WSL2 (I never tried WSL1).

Thanks,

/allen

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* RE: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
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@ 2020-06-22  6:54                 ` Allen Hewes
  2020-06-22  7:02                 ` Allen Hewes
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Allen Hewes @ 2020-06-22  6:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: My Name <mname989@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 2:34 AM
> To: Allen Hewes <allen@decisiv.com>
> Subject: Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2)
> Package "bzr" dependency-list
>
> > WSL2
>
> At your convenience, can you please link to instructions on how to install and
> start WSL2? I spent some hours searching and trying, but all I found was
> people asking Microsoft for instructions, Microsoft giving answers, people
> saying the Microsoft's answers didn't work, and the Microsoft agents
> disappearing; and a variety of conflicting instructions on Microsoft's site, as if
> they had changed the installation / startup procedure repeatedly, without
> leaving a trail to whichever method is current.
>

This is it: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10. So as with lots of Microsoft docs, you'll need to read the fine print, because it matters with WSL2. Install WSL first, then upgrade to WSL2. You need the just released Windows 10 2004 version. WSL2 just landed "regular folks" in Windows 10 2004 (20H1). ...and we are moving the thread from it's original intent...

Now, keep in mind that even with WSL, you will run into Python 2 deprecation issues. For instance, I prefer to use Fedora when I use Linux. The next version of Fedora won't have Python 2 as an installable option. So you'll be in the same Python 2 boat. Now, if you choose to run (and pay for) an "Enterprise OS" (cough, cough), you'll be OK, but in 2020 who does that? :trollface: I guess you could run one of the LTS Ubuntu's... I don't have any direct experience with Ubuntu myself.

/allen

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* RE: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
       [not found]               ` <CAGUd5DXo=Wu1jx64OkQbjHtvC_5gcaUJF6_mnL0YH=Xmhd_x6g@mail.gmail.com>
  2020-06-22  6:54                 ` Allen Hewes
@ 2020-06-22  7:02                 ` Allen Hewes
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Allen Hewes @ 2020-06-22  7:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: My Name <mname989@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 2:34 AM
> To: Allen Hewes <allen@decisiv.com>
> Subject: Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2)
> Package "bzr" dependency-list
>
> > WSL2
>
> At your convenience, can you please link to instructions on how to install and
> start WSL2? I spent some hours searching and trying, but all I found was
> people asking Microsoft for instructions, Microsoft giving answers, people
> saying the Microsoft's answers didn't work, and the Microsoft agents
> disappearing; and a variety of conflicting instructions on Microsoft's site, as if
> they had changed the installation / startup procedure repeatedly, without
> leaving a trail to whichever method is current.

I forgot to add that you can't run WSL2 and VirtualBox at the same time. WSL2 uses Hyper-V under the covers and that's incompatible with VirtualBox atm. You can make VirtualBox run with Hyper-V but the scuttlebutt is you'd have much more fun watching paint dry than running VirtualBox guests on Hyper-V...

If you use VirtualBox don't use WSL2.

/allen

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* Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-21 16:15     ` Brian Inglis
  2020-06-21 18:04       ` My Name
@ 2020-06-24 21:34       ` Jon Turney
  2020-06-25 11:53         ` Brian Inglis
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jon Turney @ 2020-06-24 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Cygwin Mailing List

On 21/06/2020 17:15, Brian Inglis wrote:
> On 2020-06-20 08:41, Jon Turney wrote:
>> On 19/06/2020 07:55, Brian Inglis wrote:
>> This analysis is not complete or correct because it doesn't take 'obsoletes:'
>> into account:
>> https://sourceware.org/git/?p=cygwin-apps/calm.git;a=commitdiff;h=d75abceedb46749982669236c5c102796a1fbfb1;hp=f92ad1d5c292ed54e7a62f5c52280efab8267f37
>> It does seem that things aren't working as intended, though.
> 
> So does that obsoletes: mean something different than category: _obsoletes,
> which I view as a (Debian-like) virtual package declaration?

There's no need to guess, when the source code is available to inspect.

All the '_obsolete' category (note no 's') does is cause packages to get 
hidden by the 'Hide obsolete packages' filter in setup (which is on by 
default).

So yes, these are completely different things.

> Are obsoletes and pre-depends documented anywhere else (and any other new
> keywords)?

https://cygwin.com/packaging-hint-files.html
https://sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/setup.ini.html

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* Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-24 21:34       ` Jon Turney
@ 2020-06-25 11:53         ` Brian Inglis
  2020-06-25 21:48           ` Jon Turney
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2020-06-25 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Cygwin Mailing List

On 2020-06-24 15:34, Jon Turney wrote:
> On 21/06/2020 17:15, Brian Inglis wrote:
>> On 2020-06-20 08:41, Jon Turney wrote:
>>> On 19/06/2020 07:55, Brian Inglis wrote:
>>> This analysis is not complete or correct because it doesn't take 'obsoletes:'
>>> into account:
>>> https://sourceware.org/git/?p=cygwin-apps/calm.git;a=commitdiff;h=d75abceedb46749982669236c5c102796a1fbfb1;hp=f92ad1d5c292ed54e7a62f5c52280efab8267f37
>>>
>>> It does seem that things aren't working as intended, though.
>>
>> So does that obsoletes: mean something different than category: _obsoletes,
>> which I view as a (Debian-like) virtual package declaration?
> 
> There's no need to guess, when the source code is available to inspect.
> 
> All the '_obsolete' category (note no 's') does is cause packages to get hidden
> by the 'Hide obsolete packages' filter in setup (which is on by default).
> 
> So yes, these are completely different things.
> 
>> Are obsoletes and pre-depends documented anywhere else (and any other new
>> keywords)?
> 
> https://cygwin.com/packaging-hint-files.html
> https://sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/setup.ini.html

Thanks for the pointers.

In:
https://cygwin.com/git/?p=cygwin-htdocs.git;a=blob;f=packaging-package-files.html;hb=HEAD
below, do you have a current URL for:
https://sourceware.org/viewvc/cygwin-apps/packaging/templates/generic-readme?view=co

 161   <li>In your binary package, you may choose to include a file
 162     /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/foo-vendor-suffix.README containing (at a
minimum) the
 163     information needed for an end user to recreate the package. This includes
 164     CFLAGS settings, configure parameters, etc.  (You can
 165     adapt <a
href="https://sourceware.org/viewvc/cygwin-apps/packaging/templates/generic-readme?view=co">this
 166     generic README</a>.)
 167   </li>

as I have tried some possible alternatives with the same result i.e.
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access
/viewvc/cygwin-apps/packaging/templates/generic-readme on this server.
e.g.
http://sourceware.org/cvsweb.cgi/packaging/templates/generic-readme

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* Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list
  2020-06-25 11:53         ` Brian Inglis
@ 2020-06-25 21:48           ` Jon Turney
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jon Turney @ 2020-06-25 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Cygwin Mailing List

On 25/06/2020 12:53, Brian Inglis wrote:
> 
> In:
> https://cygwin.com/git/?p=cygwin-htdocs.git;a=blob;f=packaging-package-files.html;hb=HEAD
> below, do you have a current URL for:
> https://sourceware.org/viewvc/cygwin-apps/packaging/templates/generic-readme?view=co
> 
>   161   <li>In your binary package, you may choose to include a file
>   162     /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/foo-vendor-suffix.README containing (at a
> minimum) the
>   163     information needed for an end user to recreate the package. This includes
>   164     CFLAGS settings, configure parameters, etc.  (You can
>   165     adapt <a
> href="https://sourceware.org/viewvc/cygwin-apps/packaging/templates/generic-readme?view=co">this
>   166     generic README</a>.)
>   167   </li>
> 
> as I have tried some possible alternatives with the same result

Yes, CVS has been retired on sourceware, so thanks for pointing out that 
broken link.

I've obtained that content and updated the link.

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