From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Aaron Ballman <aaron@aaronballman.com>
Cc: Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org>,
c-std-porting@lists.linux.dev, autoconf@gnu.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org,
cfe-commits@lists.llvm.org, Gnulib bugs <bug-gnulib@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: How can Autoconf help with the transition to stricter compilation defaults?
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 10:14:07 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f38000ed-6b9e-8703-6620-e5f52da9c5a2@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAt6xTsju9UwBJiNJabwOxZC7BXNyydkQDQv=A-7gB6w8nq5=w@mail.gmail.com>
On 2022-11-14 04:41, Aaron Ballman wrote:
> it's generally a problem when autoconf relies on invalid
> language constructs
Autoconf *must* rely on invalid language constructs, if only to test
whether the language constructs work. And Clang therefore must be
careful about how it diagnoses invalid constructs. Clang shouldn't
willy-nilly change the way it reports invalid constructs, as that can
break Autoconf.
> issues of security
> like statically known instances of UB
It's fine to report those; I'm not saying don't report them. All I'm
saying is that Clang should be careful about *how* it reports them.
At the very least if there are going to be changes in this area, the
Clang developers should notify Autoconf (and presumably other)
downstream users of the changes, and provide a supported way to get the
old behavior for reporting, and give downstream time to adapt.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-14 18:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-10 17:16 Zack Weinberg
2022-11-10 17:52 ` Nick Bowler
2022-11-10 17:58 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-10 18:12 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-10 18:44 ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-12 2:56 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-10 18:05 ` Rich Felker
2022-11-10 21:44 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-12 3:22 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-10 18:08 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-12 3:40 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-12 3:43 ` Sam James
2022-11-12 14:27 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-12 3:45 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-12 15:59 ` Wookey
2022-11-12 16:12 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-10 18:19 ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-10 21:05 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11 15:11 ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-13 0:43 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-14 12:41 ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-14 18:14 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2022-11-14 18:30 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-14 18:35 ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-15 14:50 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-15 19:08 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-15 19:27 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-15 20:27 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-15 20:57 ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-15 23:09 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-15 23:43 ` Ben Boeckel
2022-11-16 14:26 ` Michael Matz
2022-11-16 14:40 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-11-16 15:01 ` Michael Matz
2022-11-16 15:27 ` Richard Biener
2022-11-16 15:35 ` Sam James
2022-11-16 15:59 ` Michael Matz
2022-11-16 16:20 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-16 16:34 ` Michael Matz
2022-11-16 16:46 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-16 18:17 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-16 18:40 ` Jeffrey Walton
2022-11-17 18:45 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-16 18:59 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-17 18:58 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-17 21:35 ` Bruno Haible
2022-11-17 22:27 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-17 13:30 ` Michael Matz
2022-11-15 20:36 ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-15 5:03 ` Sam James
2022-11-15 13:30 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-15 13:34 ` Sam James
2022-11-16 0:08 ` Bob Friesenhahn
2022-11-13 0:43 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-17 13:57 ` Jason Merrill
2022-11-10 20:19 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <d785b19371e8419f5a5817d7cdb429db91614a3a.camel@orlitzky.com>
2022-11-11 3:08 ` Sam James
2022-11-11 3:33 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-11 8:40 ` Sam James
2022-11-11 9:02 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 14:09 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-11 23:25 ` Sam James
2022-11-12 0:53 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 4:00 ` Sam James
2022-11-11 9:15 ` Sam James
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