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From: Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org>
To: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	 Zack Weinberg via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	 c-std-porting@lists.linux.dev,  autoconf@gnu.org,
	cfe-commits@lists.llvm.org,  Frederic Berat <fberat@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: How can Autoconf help with the transition to stricter compilation defaults?
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 09:27:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ypik7d00cko2.fsf@owlfolio.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <72FE15F5-01A3-4E55-BB25-ADB63D3DA1FC@gentoo.org> (Sam James's message of "Sat, 12 Nov 2022 03:43:43 +0000")

Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> writes:

>> On 12 Nov 2022, at 03:40, Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org> wrote:
>> This is definitely more work than I can see myself doing on a volunteer
>> basis, but a 2.69.1 patch release — nothing that’s not already on trunk,
>> cherry pick the changes needed to support the newer compilers (and
>> also newer Perl and Bash and M4) is a thing that could happen.
>
> I didn't want to ask you to do this because I felt fortunate enough
> you were volunteering to handle 2.72, but this would indeed be a help,
> because then I won't have to try persuade people they should totally upgrade,
> and it should happen naturally enough with distro upgrades.

To be clear, I am *not* volunteering to do this.  It would be
significantly more work than I can carve out the time for.

Whoever does this will need to go through the *entire* list of changes
since the original 2.69 release, to find all of the changes that improve
compatibility with newer versions of tools, disentangle each from any
other changes applied in the same commit, and then do a whole lot of
testing.  It’s tedious, and whoever does it should get paid to do it.
I’m guessing at least one full 40-hour week of work, and you should
budget for three times that, going by how much more work the 2.70
release was than we anticipated.

I can *advise* anyone who takes on the job, and review their changes,
but that’s it.

zw

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-12 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-10 17:16 Zack Weinberg
2022-11-10 17:52 ` Nick Bowler
2022-11-10 17:58   ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-10 18:12     ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-10 18:44       ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-12  2:56   ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-10 18:05 ` Rich Felker
2022-11-10 21:44   ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-12  3:22   ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-10 18:08 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-12  3:40   ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-12  3:43     ` Sam James
2022-11-12 14:27       ` Zack Weinberg [this message]
2022-11-12  3:45     ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-12 15:59   ` Wookey
2022-11-12 16:12     ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-10 18:19 ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-10 21:05   ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11 15:11     ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-13  0:43       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-14 12:41         ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-14 18:14           ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-14 18:30             ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-14 18:35             ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-15 14:50             ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-15 19:08               ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-15 19:27                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-15 20:27                   ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-15 20:57                     ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-15 23:09                       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-15 23:43                         ` Ben Boeckel
2022-11-16 14:26                     ` Michael Matz
2022-11-16 14:40                       ` Alexander Monakov
2022-11-16 15:01                         ` Michael Matz
2022-11-16 15:27                           ` Richard Biener
2022-11-16 15:35                             ` Sam James
2022-11-16 15:59                               ` Michael Matz
2022-11-16 16:20                                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-16 16:34                                   ` Michael Matz
2022-11-16 16:46                                     ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-16 18:17                       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-16 18:40                         ` Jeffrey Walton
2022-11-17 18:45                           ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-16 18:59                         ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-17 18:58                           ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-17 21:35                             ` Bruno Haible
2022-11-17 22:27                               ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-17 13:30                         ` Michael Matz
2022-11-15 20:36                 ` Aaron Ballman
2022-11-15  5:03         ` Sam James
2022-11-15 13:30           ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-15 13:34             ` Sam James
2022-11-16  0:08           ` Bob Friesenhahn
2022-11-13  0:43       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-17 13:57         ` Jason Merrill
2022-11-10 20:19 ` Paul Eggert
     [not found] ` <d785b19371e8419f5a5817d7cdb429db91614a3a.camel@orlitzky.com>
2022-11-11  3:08   ` Sam James
2022-11-11  3:33     ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-11  8:40       ` Sam James
2022-11-11  9:02       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 14:09         ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-11 23:25       ` Sam James
2022-11-12  0:53         ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12  4:00           ` Sam James
2022-11-11  9:15 ` Sam James

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