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From: "Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>
To: "Szabolcs Nagy" <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	"Siddhesh Poyarekar" <siddhesh@sourceware.org>,
	"Adhemerval Zanella" <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	"GNU libc development" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Cc: "Florian Weimer" <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] aarch64: Make glibc.mem.tagging SXID_ERASE
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2023 14:31:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1d301638-abaa-4f0b-89a5-7fa75250bf5d@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZR7BTSxFlrQIHFht@arm.com>

On Thu, Oct 5, 2023, at 9:59 AM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> The 10/05/2023 08:55, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
>> The current unsetenv logic is well reasoned IMO; the tunables layer made it
>> complicated and it ought to be sufficient to just remove that.  But that
>> would require dropping the memory tagging tunable from SXID_IGNORE and
>> erasing GLIBC_TUNABLES by putting it in unsecvars.h.
>
> i think it is broken to rewrite env[] that is passed by
> the kernel. but since glibc always did this i guess it's
> fine.

I think the CVE that prompted this discussion demonstrates that it's *insecure*
to allow children of setxid processes to inherit any environment variable that is
considered insecure to consult in the setxid process itself.

I also think we ought to be talking about a very short *whitelist* of environment
variables that are allowed to survive execve() of a setxid binary -- off the top
of my head, TERM, LANG, LANGUAGE, LC_*, and maybe *nothing else* -- and putting
that list into the kernel itself.

zw

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-05 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-03 20:11 [PATCH 0/2] make all tunables SXID_ERASE Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-03 20:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] Make all malloc " Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-03 20:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] aarch64: Make glibc.mem.tagging SXID_ERASE Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04  7:29   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-04 11:59     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 14:04       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-04 14:23         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 14:51           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-04 14:53             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 15:05               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 17:01             ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-10-05  8:19               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-05 12:55                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-05 13:59                   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-05 14:05                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-05 18:31                     ` Zack Weinberg [this message]
2023-10-05 19:11                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-06 12:25                         ` Zack Weinberg
2023-10-06 12:41                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-06 17:10                             ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-10-06 18:04                               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-08 19:51                       ` Michael Hudson-Doyle
2023-10-31 19:58                         ` Zack Weinberg

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