From: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
To: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@sourceware.org>,
Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Cc: fweimer@redhat.com, carlos@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] aarch64: Make glibc.mem.tagging SXID_ERASE
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 14:59:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZR7BTSxFlrQIHFht@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c0ca28f0-2da4-1ed2-5a0b-ffe9b82e7715@sourceware.org>
The 10/05/2023 08:55, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
> On 2023-10-05 04:19, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> > i'd fix this in one place that makes the behaviour easy
> > to reason about: _dl_next_ld_env_entry in rtld should
> > just return empty in secure mode and same for getenv,
> > internally it should return empty.
> >
> > then we know that nothing in libc can depend on the env.
> > (if something parses env directly that should be fixed)
> >
> > if anything, there should be a whitelist, not blacklist
> > of env vars.
>
> That won't work because it would require knowledge of (or a mechanism to
> specify) safety of environment variables used by the application and its
> children. The current unsecvars approach is probably the best option.
why would you need a whitelist of application envvars?
if there is any env var usage *in libc* that is valid to
affect setuid binaries then those should be whitelisted.
(black list works too, but more error prone in imo)
> > of course this changes behaviour, so if we want to be
> > bw compat then we have to live with the current unsetenv
> > logic.
>
> The current unsetenv logic is well reasoned IMO; the tunables layer made it
> complicated and it ought to be sufficient to just remove that. But that
> would require dropping the memory tagging tunable from SXID_IGNORE and
> erasing GLIBC_TUNABLES by putting it in unsecvars.h.
i think it is broken to rewrite env[] that is passed by
the kernel. but since glibc always did this i guess it's
fine.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-05 14:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-03 20:11 [PATCH 0/2] make all tunables SXID_ERASE Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-03 20:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] Make all malloc " Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-03 20:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] aarch64: Make glibc.mem.tagging SXID_ERASE Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 7:29 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-04 11:59 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 14:04 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-04 14:23 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 14:51 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-04 14:53 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 15:05 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 17:01 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-10-05 8:19 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-05 12:55 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-05 13:59 ` Szabolcs Nagy [this message]
2023-10-05 14:05 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-05 18:31 ` Zack Weinberg
2023-10-05 19:11 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-06 12:25 ` Zack Weinberg
2023-10-06 12:41 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-06 17:10 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-10-06 18:04 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-08 19:51 ` Michael Hudson-Doyle
2023-10-31 19:58 ` Zack Weinberg
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