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From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@sourceware.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Cc: fweimer@redhat.com, carlos@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] aarch64: Make glibc.mem.tagging SXID_ERASE
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 14:01:42 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd20d11d-00ff-4f67-aee3-4df1f78ec669@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZR1717lyxyaDMeEG@arm.com>



On 04/10/23 11:51, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> The 10/04/2023 10:23, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
>> The actual problem I'm trying to solve is to get rid of SXID_IGNORE and
>> SXID_NONE and the first step is to drop users of those levels. Supporting
>> those levels requires additional processing in __libc_enable_secure, which
>> is a source of bugs like CVE-2023-4911.  I'm not convinced that we really
>> *need* to have tunables go across sxid boundaries, so I want to flip the
>> question around: do you think it is *necessary* for memory tagging tunables
>> to percolate sxid boundaries? If not, then they should stay at SXID_ERASE.
> 
> ...
> 
>> The end goal here is to drop everything but SXID_ERASE so that we don't have
>> to do string twiddling under __libc_enable_secure.
>>
>> The other alternative to achieve the same effect (i.e. not twiddle strings
>> in __libc_enable_secure) could be to make *everything* SXID_IGNORE, which
>> would then leave GLIBC_TUNABLES untouched for non-setuid children to do what
>> they please with it.
> 
> personally i think setuid binaries should not touch the
> env, just ignore it, so everything SXID_IGNORE.

Do you mean just drop unsecvars and not filter out glibc environment variables
for AT_SECURE?

> 
> it's not just the string twiddling but tunables_strdup
> is a problem too (it can fail, needs early alloc,..).
> ideally tunables_init would be a nop with AT_SECURE and
> otherwise parsed the env var without malloc and touching
> the env[] array passed by the kernel.

I complete agree, tunables_strdup was a source of headache due its allocation
requirement and, now, for parsing tunables.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-04 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-03 20:11 [PATCH 0/2] make all tunables SXID_ERASE Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-03 20:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] Make all malloc " Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-03 20:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] aarch64: Make glibc.mem.tagging SXID_ERASE Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04  7:29   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-04 11:59     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 14:04       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-04 14:23         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 14:51           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-04 14:53             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 15:05               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-04 17:01             ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto [this message]
2023-10-05  8:19               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-05 12:55                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-05 13:59                   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-05 14:05                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-05 18:31                     ` Zack Weinberg
2023-10-05 19:11                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-06 12:25                         ` Zack Weinberg
2023-10-06 12:41                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-06 17:10                             ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-10-06 18:04                               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-08 19:51                       ` Michael Hudson-Doyle
2023-10-31 19:58                         ` Zack Weinberg

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