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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
Cc: "Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	autoconf@gnu.org, c-std-porting@lists.linux.dev,
	"Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>,
	"David Seifert" <soap@gentoo.org>,
	"Gentoo Toolchain" <toolchain@gentoo.org>,
	"Arsen Arsenović" <arsen@aarsen.me>,
	"Paul Eggert" <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	berrange@redhat.com, rjones@redhat.com
Subject: Re: On time64 and Large File Support
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 16:38:59 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230301223859.chl5o3bedqckf3tx@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A6582515-25ED-4F71-B924-4431F8139376@gentoo.org>

[replying to the original post, because I'm not sure where else in the
more recent activity on this thread would be more appropriate]

On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 08:38:18AM +0000, Sam James wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> In Gentoo, we've been planning out what we should do for time64 on glibc [0]
> and concluded that we need some support in glibc for a newer option. I'll outline
> why below.
>
...
> 
> Indeed, the gnulib version of change #2 is exactly how we ended up with
> wget/gnutls breaking [1]. I feel this shows that the only approach
> "supported" by glibc right now is untenable.

> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/828001

Now Fedora is also being hit by the gnutls ABI change due to time_t in
public interfaces being silently changed.  From an IRC conversation I
had with Dan Berrange and Rich Jones (I think Rich mean i686 below):

<danpb> rjones (IRC): oh wow, the certificates created on i696 are not quite right .....
<danpb>         Validity:
<danpb>                 Not Before: Sat Sep 05 00:23:57 UTC 2703
<danpb>                 Not After: Sun Sep 06 00:23:57 UTC 2703
<danpb> just a few years too early
<danpb> i think this is looking like a gnutls regression,   downgrading gnutls makes it work
...
<danpb> rjones (IRC): hmm, i'm beginning to think gnutls has been miscompiled by gcc
<danpb> gnutls_x509_crt_get_activation_time inside the gnutls verification api returns garbage
<danpb> but the very same call done from a demo program returns the right answer
...
<danpb> OMG, gnulib-- has silently changed gnutls to use 64-bit time_t
<danpb> ...which is an ABI incompatibility because gnutls has public APIs which have time_t parameters
<danpb> so apps talking to gnutls will expect 32-bit time_t, but gnutls is processing 64-bit time_t
<danpb> this is utterly insane

-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3266
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-01 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-11  8:38 Sam James
2022-11-11  9:16 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11  9:19   ` Sam James
2022-11-11 23:48   ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-11  9:19 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11  9:27   ` Sam James
2022-11-11 11:38     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 20:12       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12  2:20     ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-12  3:57       ` Sam James
2022-11-12 14:16         ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-12 17:41           ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 18:50             ` Bruno Haible
2022-11-12 19:15               ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 20:23                 ` Wookey
2022-11-12 20:54                   ` Russ Allbery
2022-11-12 21:31                   ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-15  5:09                     ` Sam James
2022-11-12 18:19       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11  9:40   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2022-11-11 11:30     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 19:01       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2022-11-11 19:28         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-11-11  9:46   ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11 11:22     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 19:56       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12  4:20   ` Wookey
2022-11-12  4:28     ` Sam James
2022-11-12  4:56       ` Wookey
2022-11-12  4:59         ` Sam James
2022-11-12 18:33     ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-14  8:39   ` Adam Sampson
2022-11-14 11:47     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-14 20:26     ` Arsen Arsenović
2022-11-14 20:52       ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-15  7:39         ` Arsen Arsenović
2022-11-11 10:25 ` Richard Purdie
2023-03-01 22:38 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2023-03-02  0:29   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-03-02  9:04     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-02 10:28       ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-02 10:38         ` Andreas Schwab
2023-03-03  5:46           ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-06  8:58             ` Andreas Schwab
2023-03-06 10:19               ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-02 11:02         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-03-02 12:17           ` Bruno Haible
2023-03-02 13:24             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-03  3:30               ` Wookey
2023-03-03  5:50                 ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-03 14:01                   ` Wookey
2023-03-03 14:14                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-03 23:21             ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-03-03 11:49           ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-03 12:39             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-03-02  8:30   ` Richard W.M. Jones

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