From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Demi Marie Obenour" <demiobenour@gmail.com>,
"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>, "Sam James" <sam@gentoo.org>,
"Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
autoconf@gnu.org, c-std-porting@lists.linux.dev,
"Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>,
"David Seifert" <soap@gentoo.org>,
"Gentoo Toolchain" <toolchain@gentoo.org>,
"Arsen Arsenović" <arsen@aarsen.me>,
rjones@redhat.com
Subject: Re: On time64 and Large File Support
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 21:46:42 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c81f2918-cf68-3c47-7d3c-2401baa92932@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mvmv8jjl9p8.fsf@suse.de>
On 3/2/23 02:38, Andreas Schwab wrote:
> There is a huge difference between them: time_t has a flag day, off_t
> doesn't.
Absolutely right.
Another thing that's different is that when off_t grew in the 1990s,
people said they needed a wider off_t RIGHT NOW, because programs
wouldn't work on large inputs otherwise. The pressure to build with
_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 was large enough that a working consensus was
reached pretty quickly to build that way.
In contrast, people don't urgently need a wider time_t until 2038. So
the "let's be organized about this and do things systematically"
sentiment wins, and because other things take priority time_t conversion
never gets done. (Or possibly the "either the platform or I will be dead
by 2038 so let's do nothing" sentiment wins, which is another
seemingly-good reason to do nothing....)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-03 5:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-11 8:38 Sam James
2022-11-11 9:16 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11 9:19 ` Sam James
2022-11-11 23:48 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-11 9:19 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 9:27 ` Sam James
2022-11-11 11:38 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 20:12 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 2:20 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-12 3:57 ` Sam James
2022-11-12 14:16 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-12 17:41 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 18:50 ` Bruno Haible
2022-11-12 19:15 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 20:23 ` Wookey
2022-11-12 20:54 ` Russ Allbery
2022-11-12 21:31 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-15 5:09 ` Sam James
2022-11-12 18:19 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11 9:40 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2022-11-11 11:30 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 19:01 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2022-11-11 19:28 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-11-11 9:46 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11 11:22 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 19:56 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 4:20 ` Wookey
2022-11-12 4:28 ` Sam James
2022-11-12 4:56 ` Wookey
2022-11-12 4:59 ` Sam James
2022-11-12 18:33 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-14 8:39 ` Adam Sampson
2022-11-14 11:47 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-14 20:26 ` Arsen Arsenović
2022-11-14 20:52 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-15 7:39 ` Arsen Arsenović
2022-11-11 10:25 ` Richard Purdie
2023-03-01 22:38 ` Eric Blake
2023-03-02 0:29 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-03-02 9:04 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-02 10:28 ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-02 10:38 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-03-03 5:46 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2023-03-06 8:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-03-06 10:19 ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-02 11:02 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-03-02 12:17 ` Bruno Haible
2023-03-02 13:24 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-03 3:30 ` Wookey
2023-03-03 5:50 ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-03 14:01 ` Wookey
2023-03-03 14:14 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-03 23:21 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-03-03 11:49 ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-03 12:39 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-03-02 8:30 ` Richard W.M. Jones
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