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From: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: "Sam James" <sam@gentoo.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, autoconf@gnu.org,
	c-std-porting@lists.linux.dev,
	"Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>,
	"David Seifert" <soap@gentoo.org>,
	"Gentoo Toolchain" <toolchain@gentoo.org>,
	"Arsen Arsenović" <arsen@aarsen.me>,
	"Paul Eggert" <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	"Frederic Berat" <fberat@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: On time64 and Large File Support
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 20:01:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5874994.lOV4Wx5bFT@pinacolada> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o7tdpw38.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

> >> We need to support legacy binaries on i386.  Few libraries are
> >> explicitly dual-ABI.  Whether it's safe to switch libraries above
> >> glibc to LFS or time64 needs to be evaluated on a per-library
> >> basis.  For most distributions, no one is going to do that work,
> >> and we have to stick to whathever we are building today.
> >
> > ... since for Debian the libraries with different ABI end up in different
> > multiarch paths then.
> 
> I didn't expect co-installability as a requirement.  But yes, if that's
> the goal, we need non-overlapping paths.

Doesn't that requirement come automatically with "we need to support legacy
binaries"? How else would that work?

> > Anyone with a more, ahem, standard filesystem arrangement has to find
> > a different solution for the problem of legacy binaries.
> 
> We can have lib, lib64, libx32, and lib32t quite easily, that's not the
> problem.  What's missing is ldconfig support.  The previous three x86
> architectures have ELF-level selectors; we might need something special
> there as well.

Yup. I was thinking of lib32n (which won't collide with anything out
there), but the selector problem remains.

[Apart from all further fun problems with library paths unexpected by
unwary upstreams... riscv64 (lib64/lp64d, lib64/lp64, lib32/ilp32d, 
lib32/ilp32) and mips64 (lib, lib32, lib64) send their regards.]


-- 
Andreas K. Hüttel
dilfridge@gentoo.org
Gentoo Linux developer
(council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)



  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-11 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-11  8:38 Sam James
2022-11-11  9:16 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11  9:19   ` Sam James
2022-11-11 23:48   ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-11  9:19 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11  9:27   ` Sam James
2022-11-11 11:38     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 20:12       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12  2:20     ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-12  3:57       ` Sam James
2022-11-12 14:16         ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-12 17:41           ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 18:50             ` Bruno Haible
2022-11-12 19:15               ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 20:23                 ` Wookey
2022-11-12 20:54                   ` Russ Allbery
2022-11-12 21:31                   ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-15  5:09                     ` Sam James
2022-11-12 18:19       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11  9:40   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2022-11-11 11:30     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 19:01       ` Andreas K. Huettel [this message]
2022-11-11 19:28         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-11-11  9:46   ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11 11:22     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 19:56       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12  4:20   ` Wookey
2022-11-12  4:28     ` Sam James
2022-11-12  4:56       ` Wookey
2022-11-12  4:59         ` Sam James
2022-11-12 18:33     ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-14  8:39   ` Adam Sampson
2022-11-14 11:47     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-14 20:26     ` Arsen Arsenović
2022-11-14 20:52       ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-15  7:39         ` Arsen Arsenović
2022-11-11 10:25 ` Richard Purdie
2023-03-01 22:38 ` Eric Blake
2023-03-02  0:29   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-03-02  9:04     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-02 10:28       ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-02 10:38         ` Andreas Schwab
2023-03-03  5:46           ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-06  8:58             ` Andreas Schwab
2023-03-06 10:19               ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-02 11:02         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-03-02 12:17           ` Bruno Haible
2023-03-02 13:24             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-03  3:30               ` Wookey
2023-03-03  5:50                 ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-03 14:01                   ` Wookey
2023-03-03 14:14                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-03 23:21             ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-03-03 11:49           ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-03 12:39             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-03-02  8:30   ` Richard W.M. Jones

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