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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: "Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@sfconservancy.org>
Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	 Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org,  Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>,
	 "Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: Seeking input from developers: glibc copyright assignment policy.
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2021 10:51:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6mybj7c.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YOTTfm12jac/NYe5@ebb.org> (Bradley M. Kuhn's message of "Tue, 6 Jul 2021 15:04:46 -0700")

* Bradley M. Kuhn:

>> On 7/6/21 11:05 AM, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote:
>> > Is the “GNU Toolchain Authors” a entity that legally exists?  Only a real
>> > entity should be listed in a copyright notice.
>
> Paul Eggert replied:
>> Yes and no. It's OK for a copyright notice to identify owners by reference
>> instead of by naming them explicitly. See section 2205.2(F) of the Copyright
>> Compendium I mentioned earlier
>> <https://www.copyright.gov/comp3/chap2200/ch2200-notice.pdf>. It gives
>> "copyright by publisher" as an example, where the publisher must be obvious
>> from the rest of the document content.
>
> Neither of us are lawyers, so it'd be best to work this through with a
> copyright attorney if we want better answers.  Relaying the conversations
> I've had with copyright attorneys on this: the publisher is of course also
> already a legal entity, too, and also there is litigation around this that
> won't show up in the Copyright Office circulars.
>
> Additionally, I and my colleagues at Conservancy have had no end of
> discussions with folks from the Copyright Office to get the “real story”
> about various things that just don't show up in the circulars as well.
>
>> I agree that it'd be helpful to have such a file if well-maintained,
>> regardless of whether we make changes to the existing copyright
>> notices. I'd welcome contributions along those lines.
>
> I'll speak to my colleagues at Conservancy to see if we can fund staff time
> to make a patchset of this nature for glibc.  I'll probably need a week or so
> to get back to you on that, but it is unlikely to be urgent.

Would this result in a accurate list of copyright holders and their
licenses, or just present the existing data from the source tree in a
new way?  The second approach does not strike me as a good idea because
the current data is likely quite inaccurate, and resubmitting it makes
it seem more authoritative than it actually is.

Thanks,
Florian


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-07  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-14 18:52 Carlos O'Donell
2021-06-14 19:08 ` Rich Felker
2021-06-14 19:25   ` Khem Raj
2021-06-14 20:05 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-14 20:22   ` Matt Turner
2021-06-15 20:28     ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-06-14 21:16   ` Paul Eggert
2021-06-14 20:18 ` Matt Turner
2021-06-14 20:22 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-06-15  2:48 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-15  3:18 ` DJ Delorie
2021-06-15 17:41   ` Paul Eggert
2021-06-15 18:43     ` DJ Delorie
2021-06-15 19:05       ` Paul Eggert
2021-06-15 19:12         ` DJ Delorie
2021-06-15 19:35           ` Paul Eggert
2021-06-15 19:42             ` DJ Delorie
2021-06-15 20:08             ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-07-02 22:33             ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-07-03  1:59               ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-04  0:40                 ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-04 11:55                   ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-04 18:32                     ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-04 23:25                       ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-05 15:26                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-06 18:02                           ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-05  5:28                       ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-07-05 20:21                         ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-06 18:05                           ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-06 19:42                             ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                               ` <YOTTfm12jac/NYe5@ebb.org>
2021-07-07  8:51                                 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2021-07-07 15:01                                   ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-05  5:00                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-07-05  5:28                       ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-05 20:37                 ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-03  3:24               ` Bruno Haible
2021-07-05  5:53                 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-06-15  3:39 ` Daniel Black
2021-06-15 16:09 ` Josh Triplett
2021-06-16 13:01 ` Alyssa Ross
2021-06-16 14:08 ` Adam Sampson
2021-06-16 19:33   ` Joseph Myers
2021-06-16 19:45 ` Phil Blundell
2021-06-30 21:54 ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-01  5:24   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-07-01 19:33     ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-02  3:29       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-07-03  6:03         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-01  8:19   ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-07-02  8:59   ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-30 22:21 ` Mark Wielaard
2021-06-23  1:04 Bruno Haible
2021-06-23  3:19 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-24 19:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25  2:23     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25  6:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25  6:47         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25  7:06           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25  8:57             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25  9:43               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 11:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 12:07                   ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 12:11                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 12:14                     ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 12:25                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 12:33                         ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 12:48                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 13:44                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 14:06                               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-26  6:31                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-28  4:11                                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-28 12:01                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-28 13:06                                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-28 14:04                                         ` Phil Blundell
2021-06-28 14:57                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 11:30               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 12:24                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25  7:24         ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25  7:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25  8:23             ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 11:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25  6:30       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-02 22:23 Craig Topham
2021-07-05 14:59 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-07-05 16:48   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-05 18:52     ` Paul Eggert

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