From: DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: carlos@redhat.com, libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Seeking input from developers: glibc copyright assignment policy.
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:43:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xnczsnarzh.fsf@greed.delorie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9f0acc2d-0e8c-9a25-b753-71c90ffa96d6@cs.ucla.edu>
Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> writes:
> On 6/14/21 8:18 PM, DJ Delorie via Libc-alpha wrote:
>> The DCO means we will never change the version
>> of GPL we use
>
> If the DCO really means that then it could be trouble, as copyright law
> mutates and the LGPL clause that lets you redistribute under later
> versions is an important escape hatch to deal with future changes to
> copyright law.
>
> But I don't understand why the DCO really means that; could you explain?
If N people collectively own copyright, then all N need to agree in
order to change the licensing terms. The Linux kernel is stuck at GPL2
for this reason; they effectively can't get all the copyright owners to
agree to change it.
DCO means that N > 1 for glibc. The higher N is, the harder it is to
get agreements to change.
Note that the 'or later versions' clause does NOT let anyone arbitrarily
change the license! If $person takes a copy of glibc and distributes it
to $person2 under the terms of GPLv4, then $person2 still has the "GPLv3
or later" option; they obtain their license from the owners, not from
the intermediates, so how the intermediates choose to redistribute is -
from a license point of view - irrelevent.
So once our DCO count is high enough, glibc is stuck with "GPLv3 or
later". Folks (including us) will always have the option of following a
later GPL, but they will also always have the option of following GPLv3.
Of course, the usual IANAL.
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2021-06-14 19:25 ` Khem Raj
2021-06-14 20:05 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-14 20:22 ` Matt Turner
2021-06-15 20:28 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-06-14 21:16 ` Paul Eggert
2021-06-14 20:18 ` Matt Turner
2021-06-14 20:22 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-06-15 2:48 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-15 3:18 ` DJ Delorie
2021-06-15 17:41 ` Paul Eggert
2021-06-15 18:43 ` DJ Delorie [this message]
2021-06-15 19:05 ` Paul Eggert
2021-06-15 19:12 ` DJ Delorie
2021-06-15 19:35 ` Paul Eggert
2021-06-15 19:42 ` DJ Delorie
2021-06-15 20:08 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-07-02 22:33 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-07-03 1:59 ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-04 0:40 ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-04 11:55 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-04 18:32 ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-04 23:25 ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-05 15:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-06 18:02 ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-05 5:28 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-07-05 20:21 ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-06 18:05 ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-06 19:42 ` Paul Eggert
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2021-07-07 8:51 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-07 15:01 ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-05 5:00 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-07-05 5:28 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-05 20:37 ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-03 3:24 ` Bruno Haible
2021-07-05 5:53 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-06-15 3:39 ` Daniel Black
2021-06-15 16:09 ` Josh Triplett
2021-06-16 13:01 ` Alyssa Ross
2021-06-16 14:08 ` Adam Sampson
2021-06-16 19:33 ` Joseph Myers
2021-06-16 19:45 ` Phil Blundell
2021-06-30 21:54 ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-01 5:24 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-07-01 19:33 ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-02 3:29 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-07-03 6:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-01 8:19 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-07-02 8:59 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-30 22:21 ` Mark Wielaard
2021-06-23 1:04 Bruno Haible
2021-06-23 3:19 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-24 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 2:23 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 6:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 6:47 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 8:57 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 9:43 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 12:07 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 12:11 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 12:14 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 12:25 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 12:33 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 12:48 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 14:06 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-26 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-28 4:11 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-28 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-28 13:06 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-28 14:04 ` Phil Blundell
2021-06-28 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 12:24 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 7:24 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 8:23 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 11:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-02 22:23 Craig Topham
2021-07-05 14:59 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-07-05 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-05 18:52 ` Paul Eggert
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