From: "Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@sfconservancy.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>,
"Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: Seeking input from developers: glibc copyright assignment policy.
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 11:05:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YOSbdZqC7vykobUz@ebb.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <89e0ff1d-2500-3fa4-4565-e6ef30656b95@cs.ucla.edu>
> On 7/4/21 10:28 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> > It is procedurally easier to use a group name: "The GNU Toolchain Authors"
> > but we can honour requests to do otherwise.
Paul Eggert wrote:
> OK, so the start of the file with some DCOed contributions would look
> something like this?
>
> /* Word-wrapping and line-truncating streams.
> Copyright (C) 1997-2022 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> Copyright (C) 2021-2022 The GNU Toolchain Authors.
Is the “GNU Toolchain Authors” a entity that legally exists? Only a real
entity should be listed in a copyright notice. I talked about this in
detail in my earlier post a few days ago:
https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2021-July/128467.html
Quoting the relevant part of that email:
>> it's a big mistake to create a copyright notice that lists as the legal
>> entity as something that has no legal standing. So, unless you plan to
>> form an organization called “the glibc Contributors” [or “GNU Toolchain
>> Authors” ], I advise against that notice. [... IANAL and TINLA]
As a way to mitigate this problem and get closer to what you're trying to do,
I make the case again for moving glibc from a file-by-file copyright
inventory mechanism to a single, toplevel file one as I outlined in that
post. Conservancy can probably spare resources to help if you'd like to do
that.
Joseph Myers wrote:
>>> with no date specified and not naming individual contributors, following
>>> the recommendations at
>>> <https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/blog/copyright-notices-in-open-source-software-projects/>.
These recommendations, and similar ones promulgated by the LF and its SPDX
project, are considered controversial, and legal experts have not formed
consensus around them; by contrast, they are still hotly debated in FOSS
legal and licensing circles. I began proposing the toplevel file COPYRIGHT
notice mechanism as a compromise that solved many of the concerns on both
sides (desire for accurate and complete info vs. the desire for brevity in
a file-by-file situation). I don't purport it to be a pancea, but it has
some real advantages.
There are also political and negative policy outcomes from failing to
list every copyright holder; I wrote on this issue, which to add a bit of
humor to a dry subject, I dubbed "a Gilligan's Island Copyright Notice":
http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/06/28/gilligans-island.html
.. the problem has not substantially changed since that blog post.
--
Bradley M. Kuhn - he/him
Policy Fellow & Hacker-in-Residence at Software Freedom Conservancy
========================================================================
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2021-06-14 18:52 Carlos O'Donell
2021-06-14 19:08 ` Rich Felker
2021-06-14 19:25 ` Khem Raj
2021-06-14 20:05 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-14 20:22 ` Matt Turner
2021-06-15 20:28 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-06-14 21:16 ` Paul Eggert
2021-06-14 20:18 ` Matt Turner
2021-06-14 20:22 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-06-15 2:48 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-15 3:18 ` DJ Delorie
2021-06-15 17:41 ` Paul Eggert
2021-06-15 18:43 ` DJ Delorie
2021-06-15 19:05 ` Paul Eggert
2021-06-15 19:12 ` DJ Delorie
2021-06-15 19:35 ` Paul Eggert
2021-06-15 19:42 ` DJ Delorie
2021-06-15 20:08 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-07-02 22:33 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-07-03 1:59 ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-04 0:40 ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-04 11:55 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-04 18:32 ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-04 23:25 ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-05 15:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-06 18:02 ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-05 5:28 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-07-05 20:21 ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-06 18:05 ` Bradley M. Kuhn [this message]
2021-07-06 19:42 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <YOTTfm12jac/NYe5@ebb.org>
2021-07-07 8:51 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-07 15:01 ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-05 5:00 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-07-05 5:28 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-05 20:37 ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-03 3:24 ` Bruno Haible
2021-07-05 5:53 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-06-15 3:39 ` Daniel Black
2021-06-15 16:09 ` Josh Triplett
2021-06-16 13:01 ` Alyssa Ross
2021-06-16 14:08 ` Adam Sampson
2021-06-16 19:33 ` Joseph Myers
2021-06-16 19:45 ` Phil Blundell
2021-06-30 21:54 ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-01 5:24 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-07-01 19:33 ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2021-07-02 3:29 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-07-03 6:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-01 8:19 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-07-02 8:59 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-30 22:21 ` Mark Wielaard
2021-06-23 1:04 Bruno Haible
2021-06-23 3:19 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-24 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 2:23 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 6:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 6:47 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 8:57 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 9:43 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 12:07 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 12:11 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 12:14 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 12:25 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 12:33 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 12:48 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 14:06 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-26 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-28 4:11 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-28 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-28 13:06 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-28 14:04 ` Phil Blundell
2021-06-28 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 12:24 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-06-25 7:24 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 8:23 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 11:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-25 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-02 22:23 Craig Topham
2021-07-05 14:59 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-07-05 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-05 18:52 ` Paul Eggert
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